Exactly. Once I own it, it should be mine but since the state needs their cut I really don't ever own my property at all.How about reducing or (ideally)abolishing property taxes?![]()
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Exactly. Once I own it, it should be mine but since the state needs their cut I really don't ever own my property at all.How about reducing or (ideally)abolishing property taxes?![]()
I'd do Naples, FL in half a heartbeat. Located on the Gulf coast, spent time there when I lived in Florida. Wouldn't be a bad place to retire to.![]()
3 Oregon cities are among the best places to live in the US: 2024 report
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"Portland was recognized as the 41st best city in Oregon, followed by Salem (108th) and Eugene (115th)."
Means.. that there are 40 cities better than Portland to move to.. and there are 107 cities better than Salem, 114 cities better than Eugene
Top 10 according to the new reports;
- Naples, Florida
- Boise, Idaho
- Colorado Springs, Colorado
- Greenville, South Carolina
- Charlotte, North Carolina
- Raleigh, North Carolina
- Huntsville, Alabama
- Virginia Beach, Virginia
- Austin, Texas
- Boulder, Colorado
Of these, Virginia and Colorado are pretty much liberal/blue States, am I wrong?
Edit. Seems 7 of 10 are South. Not one place in NE, not one place in Midwest, and closest to PNW is Idaho.
Edit. Also not 1 place on the West Coast
Lists like that are really dumb. Know which other cities made their list? Baltimore, Chicago, St. Louis, Cleveland, Detroit... I might excuse Cleveland, barely. And ranking Portland even at 41st (which is pretty sad compared to how the city was regarded even a decade ago) apparently takes no account of residents fleeing from Portland. That would be the real list to see, cities losing population like Portland compared to cities gaining population like Boise and Vancouver. Clearly, voting with your feet is the ultimate test to determine best and worst places to live.![]()
3 Oregon cities are among the best places to live in the US: 2024 report
Did your city make the list?www.koin.com
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"Portland was recognized as the 41st best city in Oregon, followed by Salem (108th) and Eugene (115th)."
Means.. that there are 40 cities better than Portland to move to.. and there are 107 cities better than Salem, 114 cities better than Eugene
Top 10 according to the new reports;
- Naples, Florida
- Boise, Idaho
- Colorado Springs, Colorado
- Greenville, South Carolina
- Charlotte, North Carolina
- Raleigh, North Carolina
- Huntsville, Alabama
- Virginia Beach, Virginia
- Austin, Texas
- Boulder, Colorado
Of these, Virginia and Colorado are pretty much liberal/blue States, am I wrong?
Edit. Seems 7 of 10 are South. Not one place in NE, not one place in Midwest, and closest to PNW is Idaho.
Edit. Also not 1 place on the West Coast
The funny thing about this is the adjacent town of Springfield doesn't have beggars standing at intersections....or homeless camping all around that town."Knudson said that to address homelessness, Eugene needs to make three resources available: more affordable housing, supportive services and shelter capacity...
Knudson said that as mayor she would advocate to state and federal officials for funding for these initiatives."
Same old song and dance.
We bought our current home in 2012, it's now paid off.Exactly. Once I own it, it should be mine but since the state needs their cut I really don't ever own my property at all.
Do you have a million dollar home?? Mine is worth about 250k, prop taxes less than $3k/yearWe bought our current home in 2012, it's now paid off.
However, the prop taxes are currently 60% of our original mortgage. I told my wife, within 10 years I wouldn't be surprised if our taxes matched our original mortgage.
Original mortgage was $1620/mo. Our current prop tax is $1000/mo.
Totally not worth it, and angers me that as a gov't employee, I have the actual insight to know my money is being completely wasted.
A while back I had a coworker who lived in Portland. He had a much smaller home there, but our assessed property values were nearly identical. We compared our respective property taxes, and what a shocker. He paid more than twice the property tax that I did. Bit of an eye opener that.Do you have a million dollar home?? Mine is worth about 250k, prop taxes less than $3k/year
Yes.... Sort of. On my tax form, it says "real market value" and "taxable value" are very different. They both go up every year. I think they just pull a number out of their rears and say "F U, pay me"Isn't property tax rate based on the current estimated home value?
That's why everybody that lives in Washington works in Oregon.A while back I had a coworker who lived in Portland. He had a much smaller home there, but our assessed property values were nearly identical. We compared our respective property taxes, and what a shocker. He paid more than twice the property tax that I did. Bit of an eye opener that.
Multnomah County's millage rate of $26.02 applied against a property assessed at $500,000 results in a property tax bill of $13,010. In Clark County, that same property assessed at $500,000 would get a property tax bill of only $6,280 -- less than half what Multnomah County charges. Bear in mind that these 2022 millage rates are after the "taxpayer revolt" in Oregon that was supposedly intended to put a lid on property taxes.
I think you got that backwards...BUT, But, but........
You missed the fact that WA residents pay an income tax. Whereas, an OR resident does NOT.
Yes - I was in for some sticker shock when I moved back to Oregon (from Seattle area). Although sales tax in WA state is high, since I kept my purchases to mostly necessities, the amount I paid was realtively low - the biggest expenses were sales tax on vehicles and license tabs - so usually between $1-2K per year, if that. In WA state I owned no property.I think you got that backwards...
In reality the cost difference between Portland and Seattle is worse than you think simply due to the economic prowess of Seattle vs. the economic weakness of Portland. Statistics from the federal Bureau of Economic Analysis tell the tale. The average per-capita income (for 2022) in The Seattle-Tacoma Metropolitan Statistical Area was $92,113 vs. the per-capita income for the Portland-Vancouver MSA at only $69,435. With incomes 33% higher in the Seattle-Tacoma area, the average person moving back to Portland gets a double whammy of massive increase in income tax plus a one-third drop in income.Yes - I was in for some sticker shock when I moved back to Oregon (from Seattle area). Although sales tax in WA state is high, since I kept my purchases to mostly necessities, the amount I paid was realtively low - the biggest expenses were sales tax on vehicles and license tabs - so usually between $1-2K per year, if that. In WA state I owned no property.
Then I came back to Oregon and between federal & state income tax, I started paying five to ten times in income tax vs. what I paid in sales tax in WA. Now that I am retired I have very little taxable income after deductions and last year I paid $500 federal income tax and zero state income tax. But I paid $4500 property tax.
IIRC, there is (or was) limits on how much increase in property value assessments per year for Oregon.
FWIW - when I moved to Oregon, it was for a higher salary than I ever made in the Seattle area.In reality the cost difference between Portland and Seattle is worse than you think simply due to the economic prowess of Seattle vs. the economic weakness of Portland. Statistics from the federal Bureau of Economic Analysis tell the tale. The average per-capita income (for 2022) in The Seattle-Tacoma Metropolitan Statistical Area was $92,113 vs. the per-capita income for the Portland-Vancouver MSA at only $69,435. With incomes 33% higher in the Seattle-Tacoma area, the average person moving back to Portland gets a double whammy of massive increase in income tax plus a one-third drop in income.
We can get more specific and compare just King County (Seattle) to Multnomah County (Portland). Then it gets really bad. Average per-capita income in King County is a whopping 63% higher than Multnomah County ($113,819 vs. only $69,954). Very few people could sustain that much of an economic hit by moving from Seattle to Portland, and on top of that having to pay, as you say, five to ten times more income tax to boot.