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Why I don't like people who complain about open carry

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by wakejoe, Jan 7, 2010.

  1. wakejoe

    wakejoe Beaverton, OR Well-Known Member

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    They just don't get it. They don't care about your rights, or your freedom to do as you please.

    They speak highly of their 2A right to bare arms, but do not care about yours.

    They instantly label you as incompetent. You don't know how to handle yourself if someone goes for your gun.

    They often imagine themselves in movies, stuck in a bank robbery or jewel highst. "You lose the element of surprise." "The gunman will target you first because you have a gun." Generally, people don't even realize you HAVE the gun, let alone a criminal who's keeping tabs on a LOT more than that.

    I guess the scenario of a criminal cornering you and putting a gun in your face, and you not being able to get to yours fast enough because it's under a shirt and jacket, just isn't as cool. Let alone a bad guy not wanting to mug a guy who has a gun on his hip.

    They are usualy quick to praise Law Enforcement of their training and abilities that allow them to carry openly. But anyone here who has worked with the majority of officers would know the training is sub-par. There are shining stars and completely bad-*** officers out there, but they do not make the majority.

    They won't shut up about how you're bad for firearms progression and the 2A, but can't admit it's the deterioration of the 2A that makes openly carrying to "taboo". In the wild west, for instance, did anyone conceal carry? Nope, and it was normal. Everyone had a gun. If they had the "Let's not kill everyone..." Mentality that we do today, life would have been very peaceful.

    They don't do anything to further the firearms cause. They spend so much time complaining about people who open carry, all it does is create a line in the sand between gun owners. Where people who simply dislike open carry can still acknowledge a persons right to open carry, and leave it at that; The anti-OC forum warrior will go out of his way to tell you how much better he is than you.
     
  2. finch6013

    finch6013 Oregon City Active Member

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    I seen this coming. thanks Joe
     
  3. Teufel_Hunden

    Teufel_Hunden Albany, Oregon Active Member

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    FREAKIN AWESOME!!!!

    :poke:
     
  4. pakrat57

    pakrat57 Reedsport Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    yer killin me here :rofl1:
     
  5. NK777

    NK777 West of Portland Member

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    I won't and don't look at people funny that open carry myself. If you want to do so it is fine with me. I don't like to attract the atention of a lot of people myself which is my personal choice.

    I'm not sure myself whether it helps the cause or hurts the cause in today sociaty. That being said if you want to do it, please continue to do it. It is leagal for you to do so in many places in oregon. Unfortunately for you Beaverton disallows it unless you have a CHL making you exempt from the ordinance.
     
  6. raftman

    raftman Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The debate is just like any other in the gun community. Semi-auto or revolver, 9mm or .45, ak or ar, etc. No answer is perfect. There's legitimate reasons for open carry, and legitimate reasons for concealed carry. The smart thing to do is to realize that, rather than insisting insisting any opinion other than yours is utterly erroneous.
     
  7. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    I saw a guy open carrying on SE Hawthorne yesterday. (Heart of Libtown)

    I didn't think anything of it. I didn't even notice what kind of auto he had on his hip.
     
  8. twoclones

    twoclones Tri-Cities, WA Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, Joe. I recently did my first real open carrying while working in Wells, NV. I can't think of a better place to get used to OC than a gun friendly town in a gun friendly state.
     
  9. Logical1

    Logical1 southeast portland, OR Member

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    I guess the first thing I think when I see someone carrying is huh he's carrying and so am I then I go back to what Im doing because its no big deal....its not the ruining anything for anyone. whats ruining things for us is people that dont carry legally or commit crimes against people with firearms, or dont handle firearms safely === and that is only a portion of the problem . when your law abiding "your law abiding" period. And until they change the rules of carry of any kind we should be supprotive of one another in either decision that we choose because we are all part of this free america for the time being. United we stand and divided we fall...........
     
  10. wakejoe

    wakejoe Beaverton, OR Well-Known Member

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    I carry concealed because it's more comfortable. The weight of the gun is much better supported.

    Thanks for all the comments. :)
     
  11. terrylf72

    terrylf72 Portland, Oregon, United States Member

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    :funnypoint: :worship: :club:


    thank you for posting this!!!
     
  12. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    You want to go bungie jumping without a bungie, that's fine with me...ignorance is bliss I guess.
     
  13. wakejoe

    wakejoe Beaverton, OR Well-Known Member

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    Wow.

    That's a really bad analogy...
     
  14. Hawaiian

    Hawaiian Tigard Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Each to their own. I just fail to see the benefit of open carry over concealed carry.
     
  15. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    How so? My only gripe with people that choose to carry openly is that they do it with a Level II retention holster and to train themselves on weapon retention...your gripe is with me voicing said opinion?

    You did read past the title right?
     
  16. wakejoe

    wakejoe Beaverton, OR Well-Known Member

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    "Bungee Jumping without a Bungee" would be a better analogy for going to battle without a gun. "Playing poker with your cards face up" would have fit better. :)

    Anyway, who are you to say they need to be trained and have the right gear? Who are you to say they're not?

    I think it's pretty generous to say you're giving a criminal the ability to take your gun and use it against you. It fits the same way anti-gunners state their facts. A bad guy can get a gun and kill hundreds of people, but you as a civilian will accidentally shoot an innocent bistandard. A criminal has the skills to take and keep your firearm in their control. But you, as a civilian, can't keep it in yours.
     
  17. NK777

    NK777 West of Portland Member

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    Riot, please untwist those ------'s of yours. Nobody is personally attacking you. Why do you feel that throwing out jab's at those that don't see things exactly the way you do will help support your way of thinking?
     
  18. MonkeyMagic

    MonkeyMagic N/A New Member

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    +1 to all those that open carry...
     
  19. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    So because I disagree with open carry, I'm bad for the second amendment? Wow, that's a very lofty statement considering. I don't agree with open carry. Never have liked it. But I'm very pro-2nd amendment.

    Lets try this. People who open carry are not idiots for doing it, people who oppose it aren't idiots for opposing it. These debates don't get anyone anywhere...
     
  20. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    I think even I can agree with you...