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Where can i get a stinger pen gun????? please help
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Google is your friend, Very Rare Stinger Pen Gun 22LR : Single Shot Pistols at GunBroker.com
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Neat cool I like it. For $1200.00 or even $600.00 I could find a whole lot of other ways to take all afternoon to fire 20 rounds.
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correct. as mentioned in the video it is a title 1 firearm ergo no tax stamp required.
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dhunter - let me take a look. may have one for you. raymond-
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Thank you for all the responses I could not find it
On gunbroker last night but wow did not realize what
They are worth lol
On gunbroker last night but wow did not realize what
They are worth lol
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I am intrested please pm me not sure about 1200 cash tho but maybe trades
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no worries. i'm all for capital gains but have no interest ripping anyone off. will advise.
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What is interesting about it? It is a title 1 firearm since it fully meets the definition of pistol when fired.
Pen guns that do NOT have to be folded to be shot do NOT meet the definition of pistol there for are title 2 firearms.
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Something I found while bored on the internet one day!! 
http://www.thehomegunsmith.com/pdf/ZipGun.pdf
On this site!
The Home Gunsmith
http://www.thehomegunsmith.com/pdf/ZipGun.pdf
On this site!
The Home Gunsmith
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If you are still in search for a .22l Stinger pen gun, I'm willing to part with mine. It has had 5 shots put through it and is in great condition. I just wish it was a little more useful. Feel free to hit me up.
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(this article in latest Small Arms Review)
Small/Arms Review' Vol. 17, No.4· Oct., Nov., Dec. 2013 41
Pen guns. The thought likely conjures up images of secret agents, special operations, and deadly
subterfuge. At the very least, in this age and time, they bring to mind transfer taxes and paperwork.
One company, however, for a time produced a line of pen guns that was reasonably priced and transferred
like a conventional handgun. The resulting product was either an engineering work of art, a
plaintiff's attorney's dream, or both.
A Dark History
Stinger is a term that has been associated
with pen guns for decades. The British
Special Operations Executive (SOE)
was established in July of 1940 under the
ultimate command of Dr. Hugh Dalton,
the English Minister of Economic Warfare.
The mission of the SOE was to
take the fight to the Nazis in the occupied
territories whether that be repatriation
of downed fliers, sabotage, or, on occasion,
assassination. The SOE operated
a weapons research facility out of WeIywn
Garden near London where engineers
developed weapons for the SOE's
5,000 clandestine operatives that were
effective, transportable, and concealable.
These weapons included some of the earliest
effective suppressed firearms, collapsible
crossbows, and guns designed to
operate as parts of belts, gloves, pipes, or
cigarettes. Designers at this facility also
produced a variety of pen guns.
The typical pen gun of the era fired a
6.35mm cartridge and could still pass for
a writing instrument in dim light. One
particular version was common enough
to be type-classified as the T-2 and fired
a .22 short cartridge. This weapon was
disposable and could be concealed in the
palm of your hand.
The Military Armament Corporation,
the same folks who brought us the MAC
series of submachine guns designed by
Gordon Ingram, produced pen guns that
sported the name Stinger in the early 70s.
Interestingly, their Stingers could be had
with matching sound suppressors. These
weapons were well-made and lethal
though records of any operational use are
understandably sketchy. The few Stingers
that were sold commercially during
that time went for $36 each new.
What Does ATF Think of All This?
Original Stinger pen guns fall under
the purview of the ational Firearms Act
in the category of "Any Other Weapon,"
a sort of catch-all heading that categorizes
weapons such as cane guns, umbrella
guns, and purpose-built handgun-sized
shotguns. While the paperwork involved
in purchasing one of these weapons is
identical to that required to own a suppressor,
machine gun, or short-barreled
rifle or shotgun, the transfer tax is a paltry
$5.
The more contemporary Stinger circumvents
the NFA categorizations brilliantly.
Originally marketed by the Stinger
Manufacturing Company of Sault St.
Marie, Michigan, today's Stinger rides in
your pocket just as would a linear writing
instrument but deploys into a more familiar
angular handgun shape prior to firing.
The accompanying literature claims that
the weapon can be deployed in about two
seconds and actual hands-on experience
has born that out.
It should be noted that I have a degree
in Mechanical Engineering and have
spent my entire adult life immersed in
guns and similar mechanical contrivances.
Despite this, and with the factory
manual at my fingertips, it took me
nearly an hour of fiddling to get to the
point where I could consistently deploy,
fire, recock, and stow my Stinger pen gun
without frustrating myself. In their defense,
however, the Stinger is the archetypal
last-ditch weapon. The Stinger is
the tool you use when the alternative is
bare hands and foul language.
Deploying and firing the gun is not challenging
and this process is fairly intuitive.
However, if someone is trying to
reload the piece tactically for a follow-up
shot then something has obviously gone
desperately wrong.
How Does It Shoot?
The rifled barrel of the Stinger is two
inches long and the gun has no sights.
No one will be shooting the Camp Perry
matches with this rascal. However, the
workmanship, fit, and finish on the piece
are superb and one really would not want
to be downrange from it in an up close
and personal confrontation. Trigger pull
is adequately crisp and positive though
recoil is, believe it or not, a bit attention
getting even in .22 Long Rifle. I can consistently
keep my rounds on a pie plate on
a pleasant day at the range out to about
ten feet. Considering the piece really is
designed to be used at contact ranges this
is adequate.
Just How Do You Make It Work?
The Stinger is legitimately elegant
mechanically. As a safety mechanism it
incorporates a floating breech that cams
into position with manipulation of the
safety ring. This mechanism only allows
the firing pin to contact the cartridge
when the pistol is deployed into its angular
configuration and the safety ring is
rotated. In practice this makes for an unusual
manual of arms.
Loading is straightforward with a gun
that is cocked and in its pen configuration.
The operator simply unscrews the
barrel, drops in a cartridge, and screws
the barrel back in place. Deploying the
weapon for firing is simple. Grasping the
opposite ends of the gun the operator extends
the two halves and pivots the toggle
joint in its center before allowing the
two halves to settle back into each other
at a mechanically-detennined angle due
to spring tension within the body of the
piece. This movement deploys the trigger,
a simple flat steel appendage, from
the body of the gun. This also engages a
tab on the barrel that prevents its removal
until the gun is retracted back into its linear
pen configuration. The shooter then
rotates the safety ring slightly clockwise
as viewed by the firer (the only direction
it will tum) until the ring finds its natural
detent position. Pressure on the trigger
then fires the gun.
At this point the barrel is locked in
place and cannot be removed for reloading.
This requires cycling the action
twice to reset the safety, release the barrel
for removal, stow the trigger, and recock
the firing mechanism. While this is
counter-intuitive, it does indeed require
two complete iterations of this exercise
to release the mechanism completely. As
mentioned, it is complicated.
Anyone interested in acquiring one of these
little marvels should do so with reasonable
expectations. It is mechanically
brilliant. Its designers built this device
in such a way as to allow it to be sold
in the U.S. as a conventional title I fireann
while still facilitating open carry as
though it was a writing instrument. It also
incorporates sufficient mechanical safety
features as to make it safe to carry loaded
and retracted in one's shirt pocket. Herein
lies the problem. To design a weapon
that will meet these requirements yet still
have any hope of succeeding in today's
hyper-litigious environment makes it mechanically
cumbersome. As such, it really
is only an appropriate piece for the
advanced shooter or collector who will
take his time and study the mechanism.
Stingers can be tough to find these
days. Originally produced in both .22 LR
and .25 ACP versions, both have been out
of production for some time. There have
even been a couple of "sniper" versions
produced with long barrels and telescopic
sights. This sounds to me like the fruits
of a gifted designer with some proper
machine tools and too much free time.
Additionally, there was a fairly high
profile incident wherein a rap artist who
was said to be intoxicated at the time was
playing with a Stinger at a party and accidentally
killed himself. In a political environment
wherein it is a definitive uphill
struggle to convince anyone but the most
ardent gun enthusiast that a pen gun of
any sort may be legally owned and carried,
this makes for some unique marketing
challenges. For the right person with
the right inclinations and a little patience,
however, finding a Stinger at a gun show
or local gun shop can add a useful and
fascinating tool to the right collection.
Small/Arms Review' Vol. 17, No.4· Oct., Nov., Dec. 2013 41
Pen guns. The thought likely conjures up images of secret agents, special operations, and deadly
subterfuge. At the very least, in this age and time, they bring to mind transfer taxes and paperwork.
One company, however, for a time produced a line of pen guns that was reasonably priced and transferred
like a conventional handgun. The resulting product was either an engineering work of art, a
plaintiff's attorney's dream, or both.
A Dark History
Stinger is a term that has been associated
with pen guns for decades. The British
Special Operations Executive (SOE)
was established in July of 1940 under the
ultimate command of Dr. Hugh Dalton,
the English Minister of Economic Warfare.
The mission of the SOE was to
take the fight to the Nazis in the occupied
territories whether that be repatriation
of downed fliers, sabotage, or, on occasion,
assassination. The SOE operated
a weapons research facility out of WeIywn
Garden near London where engineers
developed weapons for the SOE's
5,000 clandestine operatives that were
effective, transportable, and concealable.
These weapons included some of the earliest
effective suppressed firearms, collapsible
crossbows, and guns designed to
operate as parts of belts, gloves, pipes, or
cigarettes. Designers at this facility also
produced a variety of pen guns.
The typical pen gun of the era fired a
6.35mm cartridge and could still pass for
a writing instrument in dim light. One
particular version was common enough
to be type-classified as the T-2 and fired
a .22 short cartridge. This weapon was
disposable and could be concealed in the
palm of your hand.
The Military Armament Corporation,
the same folks who brought us the MAC
series of submachine guns designed by
Gordon Ingram, produced pen guns that
sported the name Stinger in the early 70s.
Interestingly, their Stingers could be had
with matching sound suppressors. These
weapons were well-made and lethal
though records of any operational use are
understandably sketchy. The few Stingers
that were sold commercially during
that time went for $36 each new.
What Does ATF Think of All This?
Original Stinger pen guns fall under
the purview of the ational Firearms Act
in the category of "Any Other Weapon,"
a sort of catch-all heading that categorizes
weapons such as cane guns, umbrella
guns, and purpose-built handgun-sized
shotguns. While the paperwork involved
in purchasing one of these weapons is
identical to that required to own a suppressor,
machine gun, or short-barreled
rifle or shotgun, the transfer tax is a paltry
$5.
The more contemporary Stinger circumvents
the NFA categorizations brilliantly.
Originally marketed by the Stinger
Manufacturing Company of Sault St.
Marie, Michigan, today's Stinger rides in
your pocket just as would a linear writing
instrument but deploys into a more familiar
angular handgun shape prior to firing.
The accompanying literature claims that
the weapon can be deployed in about two
seconds and actual hands-on experience
has born that out.
It should be noted that I have a degree
in Mechanical Engineering and have
spent my entire adult life immersed in
guns and similar mechanical contrivances.
Despite this, and with the factory
manual at my fingertips, it took me
nearly an hour of fiddling to get to the
point where I could consistently deploy,
fire, recock, and stow my Stinger pen gun
without frustrating myself. In their defense,
however, the Stinger is the archetypal
last-ditch weapon. The Stinger is
the tool you use when the alternative is
bare hands and foul language.
Deploying and firing the gun is not challenging
and this process is fairly intuitive.
However, if someone is trying to
reload the piece tactically for a follow-up
shot then something has obviously gone
desperately wrong.
How Does It Shoot?
The rifled barrel of the Stinger is two
inches long and the gun has no sights.
No one will be shooting the Camp Perry
matches with this rascal. However, the
workmanship, fit, and finish on the piece
are superb and one really would not want
to be downrange from it in an up close
and personal confrontation. Trigger pull
is adequately crisp and positive though
recoil is, believe it or not, a bit attention
getting even in .22 Long Rifle. I can consistently
keep my rounds on a pie plate on
a pleasant day at the range out to about
ten feet. Considering the piece really is
designed to be used at contact ranges this
is adequate.
Just How Do You Make It Work?
The Stinger is legitimately elegant
mechanically. As a safety mechanism it
incorporates a floating breech that cams
into position with manipulation of the
safety ring. This mechanism only allows
the firing pin to contact the cartridge
when the pistol is deployed into its angular
configuration and the safety ring is
rotated. In practice this makes for an unusual
manual of arms.
Loading is straightforward with a gun
that is cocked and in its pen configuration.
The operator simply unscrews the
barrel, drops in a cartridge, and screws
the barrel back in place. Deploying the
weapon for firing is simple. Grasping the
opposite ends of the gun the operator extends
the two halves and pivots the toggle
joint in its center before allowing the
two halves to settle back into each other
at a mechanically-detennined angle due
to spring tension within the body of the
piece. This movement deploys the trigger,
a simple flat steel appendage, from
the body of the gun. This also engages a
tab on the barrel that prevents its removal
until the gun is retracted back into its linear
pen configuration. The shooter then
rotates the safety ring slightly clockwise
as viewed by the firer (the only direction
it will tum) until the ring finds its natural
detent position. Pressure on the trigger
then fires the gun.
At this point the barrel is locked in
place and cannot be removed for reloading.
This requires cycling the action
twice to reset the safety, release the barrel
for removal, stow the trigger, and recock
the firing mechanism. While this is
counter-intuitive, it does indeed require
two complete iterations of this exercise
to release the mechanism completely. As
mentioned, it is complicated.
Anyone interested in acquiring one of these
little marvels should do so with reasonable
expectations. It is mechanically
brilliant. Its designers built this device
in such a way as to allow it to be sold
in the U.S. as a conventional title I fireann
while still facilitating open carry as
though it was a writing instrument. It also
incorporates sufficient mechanical safety
features as to make it safe to carry loaded
and retracted in one's shirt pocket. Herein
lies the problem. To design a weapon
that will meet these requirements yet still
have any hope of succeeding in today's
hyper-litigious environment makes it mechanically
cumbersome. As such, it really
is only an appropriate piece for the
advanced shooter or collector who will
take his time and study the mechanism.
Stingers can be tough to find these
days. Originally produced in both .22 LR
and .25 ACP versions, both have been out
of production for some time. There have
even been a couple of "sniper" versions
produced with long barrels and telescopic
sights. This sounds to me like the fruits
of a gifted designer with some proper
machine tools and too much free time.
Additionally, there was a fairly high
profile incident wherein a rap artist who
was said to be intoxicated at the time was
playing with a Stinger at a party and accidentally
killed himself. In a political environment
wherein it is a definitive uphill
struggle to convince anyone but the most
ardent gun enthusiast that a pen gun of
any sort may be legally owned and carried,
this makes for some unique marketing
challenges. For the right person with
the right inclinations and a little patience,
however, finding a Stinger at a gun show
or local gun shop can add a useful and
fascinating tool to the right collection.
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Since my new biz will include the manufacture of very cool walking sticks/canes and staffs, I wish the concept wasn't NFA. .410 shotshell canes were somewhat common in the old days
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If you are still in search for a .22l Stinger pen gun, I'm willing to part with mine. It has had 5 shots put through it and is in great condition. I just wish it was a little more useful. Feel free to hit me up.
Interested in the 22lr version, pmed.
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You could probably try the classifieds. They are just down below, don't you know. That's code for punt yo bung down the crick.
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Regularly check the classifieds.
Thanks for the advice but I dont understand black language (no offense to you if your african american to be politically correct).
I had to look it up but according to urbandictionary.com
"Crick" refers to people who have achieved an Ultra-Rich status. To be labeled as "Crick" is an enormous compliment.
Not everyone can be crick. It is a term that solely describes the elite.
So I guess you are asking if I drop my load in rich chicks? You are correct but that has no relevance to the thread.
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