Cars are not "real property". Maybe with the vehicle as a residence it might be. Did you even read the legal cite? But even if not a residence, the legal answer is still "maybe".
I didnt know this.
So if someone is pointing a gun at you thats not using deadly force? Do you have to wait till they start shooting to defend yourself?
Real property, like real estate. Rented or owned. I am sure there are legal definitions of that, but not going to look it up right now.
No, not using. It would fall under coercion or illegal detention or something along those lines.
And no, WA has escalation of force and a reasonableness standard. There are only 2 types of force statutorily defined, physical and deadly.
The same laws apply whether this happened in Ephrata or Everett. Just in the more progressive municipality they seem to like to take it as far as possible, ending with a much more minor charge like "illegal discharge of a firearm" or some other BS as some type of moral superiority victory that still may not end in conviction. Usually a plea bargain. But they will hold you and aggressively investigate to find anything that might stick as a warning to others that refuse to be passive, bankrupting you on the process.
News to me. The line between pointing and firing is pretty fine.
You are welcome. I don't know crap about ORS or other states, though, so I can't really help with any of that. Just WA and MT, and they both have had some major changes in the last few years.
True... a small-town prosecutor is a key part of the difference when he knows all his friends and neighbors will say "you tried to make your bones at the expense of one of our own defending what's is so we're done with you, take your crimhumper crap to Seattle cuz you got no future in this town."
