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Monica Velez
Seattle Times staff reporter

State representatives in Washington are exploring a ban on assault weapons, and the possibility of requiring gun owners to receive training and to license and register their firearms. These moves are in reaction to a spate of mass shootings, including at an elementary school in Texas, that restarted national debates over gun restrictions.

A group of politicians, gun safety advocates, Seattle students and educators gathered Friday morning to call for stricter gun laws to protect schoolchildren and others — a day before March for Our Lives rallies are being held locally and nationwide.

"It's wild here in Washington state: you do not have to have a license to own a gun," said state Rep. Liz Berry, D-Seattle. "We're going to be putting together a very aggressive agenda for next year because people are counting on us."
Washington has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, ranking at 10th, according to the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence. Berry said her goal is to make the state No. 1, a spot held by California. Washington has passed legislation for universal background checks and bans on high-capacity magazines, ghost guns and bump stocks.

But Washington is just one state, U.S. Sen. Patty Murray said. "We know that a patchwork of state laws is not going to cut it. Not when an 18-year-old can drive across the border to Idaho to purchase an AR-15."
Murray said she is working with Senate Republicans on a potential gun safety compromise but didn't want to give details as negotiations are ongoing. Whatever bill Republicans might agree to would be less aggressive than what state leaders are considering.

Students in Seattle and other parts of the region have led rallies and walkouts demanding strict gun laws, after the shooting in Uvalde, Texas, where 19 students and two teachers were killed. Seattle students want mental health specialists at every school — specialists who could help students come to grips with the anxiety and fear caused by mass shooting events — and a ban on assault weapons in the state.
Chetan Soni, who has helped organize the student rallies, said the first time he wrote about the importance of background checks to purchase firearms was in the sixth grade.
"Since elementary school, my classmates and I have had to practice lockdowns," said Soni, a sophomore at Lincoln High School. "Hiding in the corner, pulling down the blinds, and staying absolutely and completely silent because we knew that our lives would one day depend on it."

And then in middle school, Soni said he was in two lockdowns. "That feeling of dread, that feeling of terror — it never goes away. It's always in the back of your mind replaying. There has not been a day that goes by where I do not think about gun violence in school."

At Seattle Public Schools, the teachers union is working with administrators to make schools safer.
"When we think about what it takes to keep kids safe in our building and create a safe learning environment that extends to the people and the educators that are working in the building," said Joaquin Rodriguez, director of the center for racial equity at the Seattle Education Association. "Not all of our buildings have the same level of safety and infrastructure around safety. That's something I know our district wants to work hard on."
There should be people inside and outside of schools that could provide security, Rodriguez said, and those conversations are beginning to happen. Educators are on the front lines when acts of violence occur.
"It shouldn't be normal where a teacher promises that when a school shooter enters that she would take a bullet for us," Soni said. "It shouldn't be normal that school districts have to invest in bulletproof bookcases to block doors in an event of an active shooter."

Students and community members will be in Olympia at the Tivoli Fountain Walkway at 11 a.m. as part of renewed protest under the banner of March for Our Lives. That organization grew out of student-led protests following the mass shooting at a high school in Parkland, Florida in 2018.

A national rally is taking place in Washington, D.C.
Other March For Our Lives rallies are planned in Bellingham, Bainbridge Island, Everett, Bremerton, Renton and Redmond. In Seattle, there will also be a gun violence march led by the NAACP at the Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial Park to remember victims at 2 p.m.
 
But Washington is just one state, U.S. Sen. Patty Murray said. "We know that a patchwork of state laws is not going to cut it. Not when an 18-year-old can drive across the border to Idaho to purchase an AR-15."
Either she doesn't know how it works or she fibbed on purpose.
 
Obviously THEY are __place your own unkind words here__.

Because.......
They still FAIL to see it.
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Yup.
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And then sometimes.....
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Obviously.........we need some REAL AMERICANS who can READ and UNDERSTAND.

"......shall not be infringed."

Aloha, Mark
 
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NOTHING they are proposing would protect school children in the least way.


And students being terrorized by lockdowns and drills... I lived thru hiding under the desk to protect from an atomic bomb attack, several times a week. Snowflakes gonna snowflake unless they are taught better by the adults. Toughen up kids... it's a mean ol world!!!
 
Every time these "please oppress me" ideology people are interviewed, the summary of their claims or complaints can be read synonymous with, "I hate that Americans have rights and that we can't just use force either indirectly or directly to force or coerce them to bend to our will."
 
Imagine if......
In America one had to have a License to..........

Speak in a Public Forum
Publish/print a Book or Newspaper
Attend a House of Worship

Rrrrrright........and that's just for a START.

Aloha, Mark
 
NOTHING they are proposing would protect school children in the least way.


And students being terrorized by lockdowns and drills... I lived thru hiding under the desk to protect from an atomic bomb attack, several times a week. Snowflakes gonna snowflake unless they are taught better by the adults. Toughen up kids... it's a mean ol world!!!
I remember those stupid drills. Even back then I often asked so how is hiding under my desk going to help when the building is turned to dust? Teachers always hated me :s0140:
 
I remember those stupid drills. Even back then I often asked so how is hiding under my desk going to help when the building is turned to dust? Teachers always hated me :s0140:
They kicked me out for always coming up with stuff like that... I guess I shoulda changed my name to "Little Johnny"!!

I still get into trouble for opening my mouth... 70yrs old this year... never gonna learn!
 
I am confused. Are these Democrat/Leftist/Marxists or Republican/Conservatives constantly proposing these Anti-2A laws? It sounds like we all have a lot of work to do in an effort to win them over to the Pro-2A side….I'm thinking we should call them and write to them and be excellent to them and after doing so, well, they naturally will reach across the aisle and embrace us, and thank us for helping them see the light of truth.
 
I am confused. Are these Democrat/Leftist/Marxists or Republican/Conservatives constantly proposing these Anti-2A laws? It sounds like we all have a lot of work to do in an effort to win them over to the Pro-2A side….I'm thinking we should call them and write to them and be excellent to them and after doing so, well, they naturally will reach across the aisle and embrace us, and thank us for helping them see the light of truth.
It's been a good 5 years of "midnight meetings " in Olympia that generate these unconstitutional state restrictions of citizens rights. I'm not sure how many other states have emergency legislation passed at 2 in the morning, but using the cover of darkness seems rather villainous. Where's my torch and pitchfork?
 
It's been a good 5 years of "midnight meetings " in Olympia that generate these unconstitutional state restrictions of citizens rights. I'm not sure how many other states have emergency legislation passed at 2 in the morning, but using the cover of darkness seems rather villainous. Where's my torch and pitchfork?
I think the following may help understand the way they think and help us to find a way, to speak truth to them in a kindly fashion…albeit, the vid is about Canada, but the same mental thought process appears common to both our Countries. We just need to try harder. More letters and calls should do it.

 
The thing that has me flummoxed consistently, is the ability to propose laws that will do NOTHING to alleviate violent crime. It's just amazing; it's either intentional on their part (you have to wonder), or they are horribly blind to what's really going on in the real world. Anytime anyone proposes nonsense like this, I feel like I should propose a reasonable alternative, not just complain. Here's my thoughts as to a first step to push back against absurd measures like this one.

Let's go after the most common ways that bad guys get weapons. How about 100% full prosecution every time, with mandatory minimum sentences for:

- Possession of a stolen firearm,
- Felon in possession of a firearm,
- Straw purchases, both purchaser and intended recipient
- "Lie and try" on 4473's. (Lying on a federal form in an attempt to purchase a firearm).

Punish the bad guys to the full extent of existing law, no exceptions. These are all existing laws, just takes the will to really do something.

I realize that this list wouldn't have made a difference with some recent events, but in the grand scheme of things, it seems a reasonable start. Magazine bans, firearm licenses, "assault weapon" bans......ignorant, and ridiculous.
 
The thing that has me flummoxed consistently, is the ability to propose laws that will do NOTHING to alleviate violent crime. It's just amazing; it's either intentional on their part (you have to wonder), or they are horribly blind to what's really going on in the real world. Anytime anyone proposes nonsense like this, I feel like I should propose a reasonable alternative, not just complain. Here's my thoughts as to a first step to push back against absurd measures like this one.

Let's go after the most common ways that bad guys get weapons. How about 100% full prosecution every time, with mandatory minimum sentences for:

- Possession of a stolen firearm,
- Felon in possession of a firearm,
- Straw purchases, both purchaser and intended recipient
- "Lie and try" on 4473's. (Lying on a federal form in an attempt to purchase a firearm).

Punish the bad guys to the full extent of existing law, no exceptions. These are all existing laws, just takes the will to really do something.

I realize that this list wouldn't have made a difference with some recent events, but in the grand scheme of things, it seems a reasonable start. Magazine bans, firearm licenses, "assault weapon" bans......ignorant, and ridiculous.
It's not about alleviating violent crime, it's about using violent crime as an excuse to strip Americans of their rights.
 
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By
Monica Velez
Seattle Times staff reporter

State representatives in Washington are exploring a ban on assault weapons, and the possibility of requiring gun owners to receive training and to license and register their firearms. These moves are in reaction to a spate of mass shootings, including at an elementary school in Texas, that restarted national debates over gun restrictions.

A group of politicians, gun safety advocates, Seattle students and educators gathered Friday morning to call for stricter gun laws to protect schoolchildren and others — a day before March for Our Lives rallies are being held locally and nationwide.

"It's wild here in Washington state: you do not have to have a license to own a gun," said state Rep. Liz Berry, D-Seattle. "We're going to be putting together a very aggressive agenda for next year because people are counting on us."
Washington has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, ranking at 10th, according to the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence. Berry said her goal is to make the state No. 1, a spot held by California. Washington has passed legislation for universal background checks and bans on high-capacity magazines, ghost guns and bump stocks.

But Washington is just one state, U.S. Sen. Patty Murray said. "We know that a patchwork of state laws is not going to cut it. Not when an 18-year-old can drive across the border to Idaho to purchase an AR-15."
Murray said she is working with Senate Republicans on a potential gun safety compromise but didn't want to give details as negotiations are ongoing. Whatever bill Republicans might agree to would be less aggressive than what state leaders are considering.

Students in Seattle and other parts of the region have led rallies and walkouts demanding strict gun laws, after the shooting in Uvalde, Texas, where 19 students and two teachers were killed. Seattle students want mental health specialists at every school — specialists who could help students come to grips with the anxiety and fear caused by mass shooting events — and a ban on assault weapons in the state.
Chetan Soni, who has helped organize the student rallies, said the first time he wrote about the importance of background checks to purchase firearms was in the sixth grade.
"Since elementary school, my classmates and I have had to practice lockdowns," said Soni, a sophomore at Lincoln High School. "Hiding in the corner, pulling down the blinds, and staying absolutely and completely silent because we knew that our lives would one day depend on it."

And then in middle school, Soni said he was in two lockdowns. "That feeling of dread, that feeling of terror — it never goes away. It's always in the back of your mind replaying. There has not been a day that goes by where I do not think about gun violence in school."

At Seattle Public Schools, the teachers union is working with administrators to make schools safer.
"When we think about what it takes to keep kids safe in our building and create a safe learning environment that extends to the people and the educators that are working in the building," said Joaquin Rodriguez, director of the center for racial equity at the Seattle Education Association. "Not all of our buildings have the same level of safety and infrastructure around safety. That's something I know our district wants to work hard on."
There should be people inside and outside of schools that could provide security, Rodriguez said, and those conversations are beginning to happen. Educators are on the front lines when acts of violence occur.
"It shouldn't be normal where a teacher promises that when a school shooter enters that she would take a bullet for us," Soni said. "It shouldn't be normal that school districts have to invest in bulletproof bookcases to block doors in an event of an active shooter."

Students and community members will be in Olympia at the Tivoli Fountain Walkway at 11 a.m. as part of renewed protest under the banner of March for Our Lives. That organization grew out of student-led protests following the mass shooting at a high school in Parkland, Florida in 2018.

A national rally is taking place in Washington, D.C.
Other March For Our Lives rallies are planned in Bellingham, Bainbridge Island, Everett, Bremerton, Renton and Redmond. In Seattle, there will also be a gun violence march led by the NAACP at the Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial Park to remember victims at 2 p.m.


The Democrat party…. the party of "tax & ban".

o_O:rolleyes:
 
Is it just me or does it seem like Wa wants to catch up or surpass CA in gun laws?

OR seems to always want to ride WA's coattails on these laws also.

Seems like we had the old northwest which had more freedoms and outdoor activities like hunting. And the new Northwest which is CA type urban lawmakers trying to impose their bans, lack of law enforcement, and endless laws on the entire state.

Don't know what the solution is though other than vastly increase eastern WA's and eastern OR's political power somehow. Seems like we need to give the rest of the state veto power over what the urban areas try to push onto the whole state.
 

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