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I have been a member since 2009 and just renewed my Shield insurance and added my wife. I really like the organization and look forward to every magazine ( 8 per year)
Monica Cowles, I would be interested in hearing more about the "Instructors Tool Kit" I have been wanting to start offering some classes here in the Willamette Valley.
Anyway thumbs Up for USCCA
I love the magazine as well!!
https://www.usccainstructors.com/us...USCCA_Instructor&sid=fb-oct11-2013-cert-class
Here is a link to the USCCA Instructors Certification program and toolkit. Believe it or not, I have been hounding them to bring their certification course to the west coast, Washington State in particular, for some time... The next course is in Florida! Ack!
The USCCA has been so flexible with their materials in allowing me to personalize it and make it mine. I take out topics that I am not interested in, and add illustrative videos to make it a multi-media experience for my students. Plus, by including the well done textbook in my course, anything we do not cover during the day they can read on their own afterward. There is so much material in the presentation, that I feel I could easily take two days to go through it with my students. The day is filled to the brim! I love teaching this course!
The funny thing is that when you look for reviews and comments on USCCA, you hear a lot about their magazine and other publications, etc., but you find very little about their Shield insurance. I've been trying to locate an interview I heard with an attorney with a background in self-defense law - he had mentioned this, and other legal defense funds were not a good idea, and were so full of 'exclusions' as to be nearly useless to someone who actually needed their services. I've read the FAQ for the USCCA Shield and, since I'm not an attorney, I can't say, but I see a lot of exclusions allowing them to walk away from their insureds, should someone actually need their services.
Here is one particular section that anyone should be very aware of:
b. We will reimburse the insured up to the Criminal Defense Reimbursement Occurrence
Limit stated in the Declarations, for the reasonable and necessary costs and expenses
incurred in connection with the investigation or defense of any criminal charge or criminal
proceeding arising out of the use of a firearm that is "legally possessed" but only if
and when:
(1) The insured enters a plea of not guilty; and
(2) The insured is acquitted of all charges; or
(3) The criminal charge or proceeding is dismissed.
The way I read that, is that, should they end up reimbursing you, it's only after you've paid, up front, for all your legal fees, which could bankrupt you, and could take months, if not longer. So, in other words, you're on the hook until the trial is done. I wonder, how much protection you're actually getting if they won't jump in and fight the whole way? You can find the full document here: <broken link removed>
I don't know how many folks read, or even understand, all the fine print their lawyers work into the plans. But if you use them, you should very well understand what limits they place on assisting you, or you could find yourself without the very protection you thought you purchased.
I'll be curious to hear what they get back to you with Monica, though I must confess, I'd rather have a resource to check them outside of themselves. Maybe that's being too negative, but in a case of something like this, I think being cautious is the best choice.
The funny thing is that when you look for reviews and comments on USCCA, you hear a lot about their magazine and other publications, etc., but you find very little about their Shield insurance. I've been trying to locate an interview I heard with an attorney with a background in self-defense law - he had mentioned this, and other legal defense funds were not a good idea, and were so full of 'exclusions' as to be nearly useless to someone who actually needed their services. I've read the FAQ for the USCCA Shield and, since I'm not an attorney, I can't say, but I see a lot of exclusions allowing them to walk away from their insureds, should someone actually need their services.
Here is one particular section that anyone should be very aware of:
b. We will reimburse the insured up to the Criminal Defense Reimbursement Occurrence
Limit stated in the Declarations, for the reasonable and necessary costs and expenses
incurred in connection with the investigation or defense of any criminal charge or criminal
proceeding arising out of the use of a firearm that is "legally possessed" but only if
and when:
(1) The insured enters a plea of not guilty; and
(2) The insured is acquitted of all charges; or
(3) The criminal charge or proceeding is dismissed.
The way I read that, is that, should they end up reimbursing you, it's only after you've paid, up front, for all your legal fees, which could bankrupt you, and could take months, if not longer. So, in other words, you're on the hook until the trial is done. I wonder, how much protection you're actually getting if they won't jump in and fight the whole way? You can find the full document here: <broken link removed>
I don't know how many folks read, or even understand, all the fine print their lawyers work into the plans. But if you use them, you should very well understand what limits they place on assisting you, or you could find yourself without the very protection you thought you purchased.
I'll be curious to hear what they get back to you with Monica, though I must confess, I'd rather have a resource to check them outside of themselves. Maybe that's being too negative, but in a case of something like this, I think being cautious is the best choice.
Thank you Monica. I will push as well for them to have a class here in the PNW.
Did you go to Florida for certification or was it not required?
Do you have a website for your class desription and schedule?
Happy New Year!
I once heard this newsflash a while back;
"There is no such thing as a perfect person, organization, church, job, family, community group, sports team, business...................................................etc."
Ultimately, I hope I never have to use any of my 'Self Defense Insurance' options, whether it is ACLDN, USCCA, NRA Instructors' insurance, etc. but I still appreciate what they do and do my small part to support organizations that I like and ignore what I don't.
I am NOT flying to Florida. ..I am a definite homebody, and like to stick to my own neck of the woods...I just squeak real loud right where I am...LOL! Their instructor program has two levels; Affiliate, and Certified. I am still an affiliate until I take their weekend long certification course......in the PNW....
I do have a website and schedule, but I'm not sure I should post it here, as I was told I needed to remove that info off my public profile. I believe it is still on my private profile...or I think (hope?) it would be okay if I PM you that info...
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
seems like an old thread, but since it's been drawn back up...
I HATE the emails EVERY DAY.
Sign up your friend and you can get this Kimber.
Upgrade your plan and I'll send you this FNH.
it gets old