Trump is wooing the 2A crowd....

[Koda]

Trump wooing the 2A crowd isnt news its a given... in fact I doubt he even needs to woo the 2A crowd. If he wants to win, for real this time, he needs to woo the moderate liberals that are scratching their heads at how Biden runs things.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

President Biden is horrific....and would be a bad choice to run again....
Trump...has a lot of baggage to overcome...and would be be a bad choice to run as well.

I say "bad" in both cases...simply because the amount of hate shown to both of these guys ....
May mean that someone will vote for the other guy , just for spite...as in the old saying of
Cutting off your nose to spite your face.

With that said....
Just what other choices are there...?

I hate voting for the lesser of two evils...as I said before it is still a vote for an evil choice.
It is been a long while since I actually voted for someone in a Presidential election...
Ross Perot and James Stockdale was the last time I voted for someone , 1992.....sigh.
Andy

 

[Koda]

President Biden is horrific....and would be a bad choice to run again....

I think its telling whats become of the Democrat party when hes the best they got despite him being the incumbent. I read somewhere that the -only- reason he is running again is to keep Trump out... because incumbents are more difficult to unseat. As if its some moral superiority complex, he doesn't even actually want to be president anymore.

 

[Nosferatu]

Just what other choices are there...?

Nikki Haley and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. are the only other two that are actively campaigning, I believe.

 

[Koda]

Nikki Haley and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. are the only other two that are actively campaigning, I believe.

Haley's not gonna topple Trump though, and voting for Kennedy will be one of those subjective dilemmas of taking votes away from either Trump or Biden... no way to know.

 

[gmerkt]

What he says now is just pre-election rhetoric. What he might do later is likely to be completely different, depending upon which way the wind blows. My personal opinion, I don't think Trump cares much either for or against 2A.

Just look at what Biden said before the 2020 election. Banning AR's and buying them back from owners. Require universal background checks. Etc. Fortunately, never happened.

 

[Koda]

What he says now is just pre-election rhetoric. What he might do later is likely to be completely different, depending upon which way the wind blows. My personal opinion, I don't think Trump cares much either for or against 2A.

Just look at what Biden said before the 2020 election. Banning AR's and buying them back from owners. Require universal background checks. Etc. Fortunately, never happened.

If someone is a single issue 2A voter they will vote for Trump. He may be indifferent, but he also isn't going to make it a campaign action or go against his voter base. Biden meanwhile actively believes "nobody needs an AR21" lol.

 

[Nosferatu]

Haley's not gonna topple Trump though,

Not a chance and she knows it. She's just keeping her name in the public eye and pissing away donor money at this point, hoping for something in the future.

and voting for Kennedy will be one of those subjective dilemmas of taking votes away from either Trump or Biden... no way to know.

Possibly. I generally like the message RFK is campaigning on, but I haven't looked into him much as far as policies and voting record.

A vote for Biden is a vote for Kamala. No way he finishes another term.

 

[WillametteWill]

No president has been stronger on the 2nd amendment than Trump, except the bump stock ban.

I think Barack was the best Pres for 2A. I mean, look at how many guns he sold! Okay, maybe not the same.

 

[dhshred710]

Haley's not gonna topple Trump though, and voting for Kennedy will be one of those subjective dilemmas of taking votes away from either Trump or Biden... no way to know.

Somewhat agree on the Kennedy vote, depending on the state youre in. I was fine voting third party last election since I'm in deep red state, and usually has 5-10% of the votes go third party... I'd argue the vote suggests a reform in third party election laws, not so much the candidate. Biggest challenge are the fees and required signatures third party camps need to spend extra time on.

As for RFK Jr, he's doing surprisingly better than expected in many of the polls.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

What he says now is just pre-election rhetoric. What he might do later is likely to be completely different, depending upon which way the wind blows. My personal opinion, I don't think Trump cares much either for or against 2A.

Just look at what Biden said before the 2020 election. Banning AR's and buying them back from owners. Require universal background checks. Etc. Fortunately, never happened.

And I'm still sitting here waiting for Jimmy Carter to release all the project blue book info on his day 1

 

[dhshred710]

A vote for Biden is a vote for Kamala. No way he finishes another term.

100% agree, and i'd bet the DNC announces he's had some "medical issue" before election day. Now Kamala is scary AF, check her record as CA AG if you dont think she bends over (Willie Brown pun intended) for any lefty nonprofit's policy suggestions. IIRC she pushed for microstamping, spent years litigating the definition of "flash hider" to enforce CA's AW ban, and suggested hollowpoints are used by gangbangers to make it harder for doctors to perform surgery.

 

[Koda]

Somewhat agree on the Kennedy vote, depending on the state youre in. I was fine voting third party last election since I'm in deep red state, and usually has 5-10% of the votes go third party... I'd argue the vote suggests a reform in third party election laws, not so much the candidate. Biggest challenge are the fees and required signatures third party camps need to spend extra time on.

As for RFK Jr, he's doing surprisingly better than expected in many of the polls.

Id love to see a moderate independent or moderate party topple our current hard left/right two party system but its a mystery why humanity has to follow movements instead of balance.
I truly believe people should vote for who they think is best instead of the lesser of evils but the electoral system kind of prevents that. Here in Oregon a vote for 3rd party is a vote for blue.

 

[Camelfilter]

Probably was, and it looks to be a slim to good chance that if Trump does get in the Dem's will hold a majority in both houses

So if Biden stays in, then the majority in both houses remains the same.

Wheras if the President flips, there's a more likely probability of one or both houses also flipping back R majority during his tenure...

So, if Biden stays, more of the same & worse. Policy.

If Biden is voted out, more likely a change. To National & Global policy. Both of which benefit our economy.

While the HPA would simply be fantastic, I really don't see it. Certainly not under the current admin, or if under that party control. EVER.

 

[Camelfilter]

I'd put a friendly wager that we'll still get a D president either way..

Trump gets R nomination; lots people(not just Ds but also Rs) will vote against him because him.

Trump loses R nomination, runs as 3rd party/independent; R nominee loses because Trump pulls a lot of popular votes away from R nomination (Ross Perot effect) edit, and also, EC goes to D because they get barest possible minimums in more States simply because 3rd Party candidates usually don't get enough votes to overpower either National Party

A whole bunch depends on whom Trump choses as his VP on the ticket.

Tim Scott??

 

[DunRanull]

I think we will certainly face more active attempts gun control under Biden, but historically the most damaging attacks on the second amendment have come under Republican president

GCA '34 and GCA '68 both came under dems. GCA '86- FOPA, a mixed bag- Came under Reagan.

 

[AshWilliams]

He's a politician. Most likely he's just saying whatever he thinks will get him the party nomination/voters.. just like every politician out there.

Exactly. I seem to recall him attending a prayer meeting when the news broke he was banging a porn star as well as the photo op at St. John's Church with his bible prop. Then there was the presidential limo doing a lap at Daytona trying to woo the Nascar crowd.

He's gonna do whatever is advantageous for him. To think he has the common man's interest in mind is laughable to say the least.

 

[jayR]

He'd win hands down with Tulsi Gabbard as VP.

 

[Nosferatu]

He'd win hands down with Tulsi Gabbard as VP.

I'm not sure Tulsi has it in her to put up with Trumps personality.

She's also still trying to figure out where she fits as not-a-democrat-anymore in the grand scheme.

 

[jayR]

If Biden drops out and big mike takes over @#!... Trump's gonna have to pander harder.. But as history shows and Trump said in 2016, we're going to get tired of winning.