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re Carbine = failed in Korea. Post 39
Jeff Cooper, Col - was arguing in favor of exploding things once Korea came about. Like Bazooka's - RPGs. The carbine is essentially a pistol caliber carbine and the mass waves of Chinese wearing heavy cloth coats, due to extreme cold, were not being killed by it.
The M-14 was also a result, disastrous, but a result.
See the Falkland Island Wars, One of the few times a battle rifle faced itself.
FN FAL. The Argentinians had full auto, the Brit's semi- -- by shot #3 the Argentinians were shooting air planes and Brits were not. This is the same problem of the M-14 - You have to limit its use to semi-auto before you are good to go.
In Viet Nam, they really loved the M1 Carbine and had a huge number of them given to them by the USA.
Perhaps the real solution is to modify the treaties and to use expanding bullets.
But - within the next couple of years the robots - or remotely piloted soldiers - will be doing the fighting - they may not look like Robo Cop or C3P0 - perhaps more like what the FBI had in the 90s - at places like Ruby Ridge - but look at the advantages. No body bags. Ability to hit what you shoot at. Armor. No My Lai.
Jeff Cooper, Col - was arguing in favor of exploding things once Korea came about. Like Bazooka's - RPGs. The carbine is essentially a pistol caliber carbine and the mass waves of Chinese wearing heavy cloth coats, due to extreme cold, were not being killed by it.
The M-14 was also a result, disastrous, but a result.
See the Falkland Island Wars, One of the few times a battle rifle faced itself.
FN FAL. The Argentinians had full auto, the Brit's semi- -- by shot #3 the Argentinians were shooting air planes and Brits were not. This is the same problem of the M-14 - You have to limit its use to semi-auto before you are good to go.
In Viet Nam, they really loved the M1 Carbine and had a huge number of them given to them by the USA.
Perhaps the real solution is to modify the treaties and to use expanding bullets.
But - within the next couple of years the robots - or remotely piloted soldiers - will be doing the fighting - they may not look like Robo Cop or C3P0 - perhaps more like what the FBI had in the 90s - at places like Ruby Ridge - but look at the advantages. No body bags. Ability to hit what you shoot at. Armor. No My Lai.