The fight for the soul of SEATTLE

[DLS]

Well, I moved from Seattle to Clark County, so the liberal urban center / PDX influence still impacts my life ... but not as profoundly or directly as when I lived in the Emerald City.

 

[Dr Prepper]

did ya all see the part with the addict is asking his "gaurdian" for $100 when she showed up, the city council is alot like that, the addict, NOT the guardian.
personally im sick and tired of it.
I'm currently looking for jobs in other states or eastern wa. to live in Idaho. I'm actually wondering if Idaho is to still too close for these idiots. I do like the clean water we have up here in the NW though. i have worked in bottling and the PNW is the only place in the country we could bottle those boutique LaCrotch water the rest just do "soda".

 

[WAW44]

 

[BlindedByScience]

I'll tell you what occurred to me, actually gave me a chill. Look how easily a relatively small group of people have taken over large blocks of Portland and Seattle, and called it their own. As people clear out of the cities, as the police are defunded and demoralized, prevented from enforcing the most basic of laws, as their numbers shrink....what's going to happen when a thousand well armed gang members show up and say "...this city is ours.."....?? Where would the will to fight them come from..?? Our feckless politicians..?? The business leaders who have been bankrupted by illogical policies..?? The citizens that have moved on and away..?? Then what..?? Don't think it can't happen.....hope I'm wrong. Glad I'm rural....

 

[nwslopoke]

I'll tell you what occurred to me, actually gave me a chill. Look how easily a relatively small group of people have taken over large blocks of Portland and Seattle, and called it their own.

That is only due to those small pockets of places where elected officials who have swore under oath to protect the people that have granted them the authority to do it, are criminally derelict in their duties. Try it in Vernonia (somewhat rural Oregon) and the outcome would be more what good people expect. This mess was allowed to happen. The "leaders" don't care because it cost them zero dollars until it hit their front yards or lobbies. Then they care.

 

[mrblond]

what all these progressives never seem to learn is what happens when the radicals come to power and no longer need said radicals.

Night of the Long Knives - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Alexx1401]

Y'know how a 2 year-old that you needed to catch and grab by the arm to stop them from running into traffic, because they saw a doggy on the other side of a busy street?
Well, they'll pull and pull, harder and harder, screaming and crying 'till it seems like they would rather lose an arm or blow out their lungs than listen to reason. They would rather run in front of a speeding truck than stop pulling and screaming just to get what they want!
How there's no realization or understanding of the consequences that will result?....

.... Well, that's the immature mindset that's fully in charge of large West Coast cities now.

It is amazing to listen to people who promote whatever flavor of Socialism they want. When you point out how it's always the same ending they will either get VERY angry, or with strait face tell you "this time will be different".
Surely that screaming toddler will just fly over the truck and land safely on the other side and the dog will greet them with kisses. The ones who want police state power know full well what they are trying to get but, the useful idiots voting for them really believe it will be different this time. The old line about the definition of insanity playing out for all to see.

 

[GrayGoose]

With the liberal plague that has infected Seattle, there is no hope left. Same for Portland.
May the big one hit soon, pleeeeease.............

 

[gryghin]

Judge McKenna is a hero in my book. Too bad they were able to wear him down and make him quit.

Judge Ed McKenna retires early, says his job was 'becoming more difficult'

Judge Ed McKenna announced his abrupt retirement earlier this month, with two years left to serve as presiding judge in the Seattle Municipal Court.

mynorthwest.com

 

[Superglide]

SUPER X thank you for sharing this. Honestly I questioned if I should invest 90 minutes, figuring I know the premise and the result already.
I found it absolutely worth watching and will recommend to others. A nice job reporting, I wish there was more like this. The situation is sickening, but I found the questions asked worth pondering by as many as it may take to start righting the ship.
Sure there is a prevalent feeling to let the vessel crash into the iceberg because they let it happen, but should we? An infection without treatment will not stop spreading.

 

[SUPER X]

Portland is on the same path and with the full on decriminalization of drugs and the blind eye to crime might make seattle a nice place .

 

[gmerkt]

I keep waiting for somebody in authority to realize just how far out of control things in Seattle have gotten. So far, this hasn't happened. It's difficult for me to understand how this has gotten so far out of control. Because it didn't happen overnight. At some level, it's been going on since the WTO riots in 1999. Then it took a number of years for the homeless situation to really get out of hand. Permissiveness and accommodation only brought on more disrespect for law and order. And feeling of entitlement. I don't know if it can be fixed at this point.

 

[Soli]

Lived in the Detroit suburbs for 9 years, left in 1993. My take on 'how it gets to that point:'

1) Most (me included), are either just not up to, or deeply skeptical of, predicting a negative future. Normalcy bias. Doomers are downers, nut jobs, etc. Doesn't help that that's often true, but what it does is make noticing a true sheet train heading for you difficult.

2) Incremental bad change is noticed, but never enough to be acted on because in absolute terms it doesn't affect many people. Even with certain areas of Detroit being practically war zones odds were that you wouldn't be a crime victim most days. As long as it doesn't happen to you, the problem isn't that bad. So there's no mass of people motivated to fix it.

3) Corruption, mostly hidden. In any sheet hole there are people making bank. They also are insulated from negatives (violence, theft, etc) via connections. They also argue for the status quo, which is a deteriorating state.

4) People who are not in on it and can, leave.

And that's it in a nutshell – the mass of people ignores, denies or is silenced/overridden by the connected, then leave. The tipping point is when property values start to fall there, but not in other locations.

Lol I'll tell some Detroit stories sometime. Nothing happened directly to me or mine, but saw some things, and knew some folks...

 

[STEELE]

My prediction is that we will see this on a larger scale once the HARRIS-Biden autocracy becomes real.

 

[nwslopoke]

Both Harris and Biden had been on the government teet for decades. I would respect them more if they did a respectful job. Both get off and make their shine from removing people's rights. Neither have a positive view of the citizens they claim to serve.

A return to normalcy is a return to power of people who receive a paycheck regardless of the chaos they create or allow to happen. Shutdowns, disasters, whatever. They will get paid, never fired or a worry beyond spending tax dollars.

 

[DB is Here]

Look how easily a relatively small group of people have taken over large blocks of Portland and Seattle, and called it their own.

Remember a team of two shut down Boston not too long ago.

 

[tkdguy]

what all these progressives never seem to learn is what happens when the radicals come to power and no longer need said radicals.

Night of the Long Knives - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I know this one very well. This has been in Cinema a few times. Most likely preplanned from the radical left. Just guessing.

 

[FortRock]

Clockwork Orange

 

[ma96782]

Surely, someone in the Govt. knew of what would happen next?

(1) Insurers' apparent reluctance to cover Portland businesses | Seattle Real Estate Podcast - YouTube

Of course, Seattle is in the cross hairs too.

AND BTW....who were those "peaceful protesters" in Seattle?

(1) Who & Where are the Seattle "Peaceful Protestors" From??? I Seattle Real Estate Podcast - YouTube

And YES. IMHO, the Seattle and Portland situations......are prime examples of the Liberal Dems Leaderships gone wild.

Aloha, Mark

 

[gmerkt]

The tipping point is when property values start to fall there, but not in other locations.

Anybody who knows what's going on has seen pictures of Detroit. With wide open, mostly empty spaces that used to be populated neighborhoods. Anybody with brains or money left. After that, there's basically no tax base left. Granted, the causes are different. But the impetus in that direction is surely there. Detroit's situation is probably too abstract for the Seattle City Council to ponder. One other thing that has yet to be fully realized. The Covid virus very well may have completely changed the way some businesses operate. All those city office workers may not be coming back after.