Switches all over YouTube

[MikeInOr]

I also had to do some searching to quench my curiosity. The youtube video below looks pretty authentic. It answered one of my questions: after the automatic fire starts will it stop if you release the trigger? The video shows that it does indeed stop firing when the trigger is released. I am also curious about the internal mechanics, does the striker get set then released during auto fire or is it more like an open bolt machine gun when in full auto.

The "Glock Switch" does look like it is going to fan the fire of the anti-gun crowd which will inevitably blow back on the lawful gun owning community. Considering that the device can be easily printed on a 3D printer it raises my eyebrow and imparts concern in me as well.

 

[jtr]

This woman might have been killed with a fully automatic Glock according to Reddit reports.

Victim Identified in Pearl District Homicide (Photo)

The victim in this homicide is identified as Rylee Hatlen, 19. Her family has been notified of her death and provided the attached photo for public release.<br/><br/>The Medical Examiner determined sh...

www.portlandoregon.gov

 

[CamoDeafie]

I also had to do some searching to quench my curiosity. The youtube video below looks pretty authentic. It answered one of my questions: after the automatic fire starts will it stop if you release the trigger? The video shows that it does indeed stop firing when the trigger is released. I am also curious about the internal mechanics, does the striker get set then released during auto fire or is it more like an open bolt machine gun when in full auto.

The "Glock Switch" does look like it is going to fan the fire of the anti-gun crowd which will inevitably blow back on the lawful gun owning community. Considering that the device can be easily printed on a 3D printer it raises my eyebrow and imparts concern in me as well.

The only thing is... 70-90% (WAG...) of the 3d printed, or non-legal market acquired devices for the Glock... are in the hands of a certain demographic, more likely to be connected to violent gangs as opposed to a certain demographic just having fun and playing around with them for the lulz. It should be interesting to see what, if any Federal charges have been brought against these gang members, and if they were fully prosecuted and convicted compared to the two guys in Florida who dared to publicly poke the Govt agencies eyes and disrespect them openly by publishing and selling a drawing etched into cards

 

[Flopsweat]

The only thing is... 70-90% (WAG...) of the 3d printed, or non-legal market acquired devices for the Glock... are in the hands of a certain demographic, more likely to be connected to violent gangs as opposed to a certain demographic just having fun and playing around with them for the lulz. It should be interesting to see what, if any Federal charges have been brought against these gang members, and if they were fully prosecuted and convicted compared to the two guys in Florida who dared to publicly poke the Govt agencies eyes and disrespect them openly by publishing and selling a drawing etched into cards

When your lifestyle is centered around breaking the law, you probably break the law a lot. Geez it sounds like I'm channeling Kamala.

 

[CamoDeafie]

When your lifestyle is centered around breaking the law, you probably break the law a lot. Geez it sounds like I'm channeling Kamala.

Indeed and the Courts have consistently held that "once a criminal, always a criminal" and "a criminal (convict) is not expected to follow laws" essentially, the Courts, and the Legislatures have laid out a protection of sorts for the criminal class in that (edit) they reject/disavow (end edit) the ancient legal doctrine of "outlawry" in which a law abiding citizen or sheriff or jailer or whoever are "on the right side of the Law"; can kill those declared to be "outlaws", and in which those "outlaws" are outside the protection of the laws and magistrates. I see many posters and really, sometimes I do myself; supportive of some of those old ideas.. but on the other hand... the Founders were themselves at risk of being legally declared "Outlaws" by the Crown, and so, "All men are created equal and have certain inalienable Rights" is really the guiding principle. This is not to say that a criminal killed by a citizen acting in self-defense should result in said citizen being put into jail and needing to prove that they were in imminent danger. Rather, it is to say that people not being in imminent threat just taking shots at criminals should be equally punished.


That said... publicly equal application and enforcement of the Laws would do a lot to keep voters.... else we are seeing clear case of "iniquity" that John Adams spoke of.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Soooo....

We have this thread examples of videos where people who are brandishing and using illegal firearms.
It would also seem from the videos in question that with a little bit of work and effort ...
These same people could be identified and located.

I would think that it would worthwhile for law enforcement to look into this matter and do just that...
Identify and locate those individuals , conduct an investigation and arrest them for breaking various firearm laws.

However...
I do understand that the above takes time...money..and trained personnel...all of which are in short supply with law enforcement.

And as pointed out by a few posters here in the thread...the folks that are elected need to actually care about this issue...
As in really care about doing their job...what is right for the American people.
As opposed to catering to their own self-serving interests.

While I have never shot a Glock pistol with a switch...
I have shot various firearms with a full auto and or "burst" feature.
Training and practice is needed for accurate fire when using such firearms.
Both of which are not over used by the folks in the videos here in the thread...I would guess.

This is not to say the people in video ain't a threat or dangerous...
Since multiple bullets flying around can lead to hits being made...mostly , into places or people who ain't the intended target.

All which at the end of the day...will only make things more difficult for the lawful firearm owner.
The lawful firearm owner , who harms no one with their firearms.
But...as for the reasons pointed out above...
It is far easier and desirable for elected officials to go after the lawful firearm owner , rather than the criminal.
Andy

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

where people who are brandishing and using illegal firearms

Do you have proof of that? So far all I have seen in this thread is unsupported assumptions based on 'demographics'

 

[CamoDeafie]

Do you have proof of that? So far all I have seen in this thread is unsupported assumptions based on 'demographics'

Do you have proof that the individuals spoken of, all are duly licensed SOT FFLs with Post Sample machine guns as described by 1934 NFA, 1968 GCA, 1986 Hughes Amendment to FOPA?

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Do you have proof that the individuals spoken of, all are duly licensed SOT FFLs with Post Sample machine guns as described by 1934 NFA, 1968 GCA, 1986 Hughes Amendment to FOPA?

Why would they need to be?

 

[ColeInOregon]

For all "BuT tHe WoNt aRrEst ThE gUy WiTh A sWiTch"

Indy Man Sentenced to 2 Years in Federal Prison for Trafficking “Glock Switch” Devices That Turn Semiautomatic Pistols into Machineguns

www.justice.gov

Judge denies release of first juvenile in Franklin County charged for using Glock switch

The 16-year-old boy was arrested during the Aug. 18 high school football game at Canal Winchester where three other teens were also arrested.

www.10tv.com

Feds crack down on cheap parts, sold online, that illegally turn pistols into machine guns

At least three North Texans are among multiple people nationwide who are accused of possessing a small and inexpensive device — typically available online...

www.dallasnews.com

18-year-old arrested after Glock switch, 3 guns found in car during traffic stop on Indy's northeast side

Detectives found a Glock switch, two handguns and a pistol inside the car.

www.wthr.com

Indictment: So-called ‘Glock Switches’ Would Have Turned Pistols into Machineguns | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

TOPEKA, KAN. – A Topeka man is facing federal charges after he imported devices from China that for $19 a piece can turn a Glock pistol into a fully automatic machinegun, U.S. Attorney Stephen McAllister said today. The defendant was indicted yesterday in U.S. District Court in Topeka. Jacob...

www.atf.gov

Fort Worth Manufacturer Charged in Glock Switch Case

A Fort Worth man who allegedly manufactured and sold thousands of machinegun conversion devices – small, 3D-printed gadgets that convert ordinary firearms into fully automatic machineguns – has been federally charged.

www.justice.gov

And that's just the first page of search results.
This whole thread is just a thinly veiled dog whistle.

 

[nwslopoke]

Kids these days...

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My grandmother made us go pick the switch she was going to use. Better pick a good one or you'd get it twice. The wrong one you picked then the one she had to go out and find. Not surprisingly, this was very rare.

So, some switches actually save lives.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Why would they need to be?

Because there's no such thing as a 3d printed or manufactured/transferable Glock Switch made before 1986 . In fact there is a patent approved in 1998 for the devices attributed to one Jorge A. Leon.

 

[Stomper]

Dime a dozen every day in major cities across the country.

are you referring to the weapons or saggy-pants wearing wannabe mush-mouthed "gangstas wif (fake gold) grills" and bad vocabulary and social skills?

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Because there's no such thing as a 3d printed or manufactured/transferable Glock Switch made before 1986 . In fact there is a patent approved in 1998 for the devices attributed to one Jorge A. Leon.

And $10.00 isn't gonna buy you much coffee at Starbucks these days, still don't know why you think they would need to be SOT's, unless you just turned hard into "they look guilty so they must be"

 

[CamoDeafie]

And $10.00 isn't gonna buy you much coffee at Starbucks these days, still don't know why you think they would need to be SOT's, unless you just turned hard into "they look guilty so they must be"

The.... LAW...? To possess any part, combination of parts, that's solely to turn gun into a machine gun, made after 1986 requires either LEO/MIL credentials or barring that; SOT/ FFL. .. the exact same reasoning that the two guys from CRS are serving very long Federal prison sentences...just saying that it doesn't matter what they say they are (like solvent traps, or art pieces or puzzles or whatnot ) , what they do is turn a handgun into a machine gun. Maybe not the prop devices in the posted video; but there are plenty of videos showing idiots firing them full auto that don't say they're actually SOT FFLs.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

The.... LAW...? To possess any part, combination of parts, that's solely to turn gun into a machine gun, made after 1986 requires either LEO/MIL credentials or barring that; SOT/ FFL. .. the exact same reasoning that the two guys from CRS are serving very long Federal prison sentences...just saying that it doesn't matter what they say they are (like solvent traps, or art pieces or puzzles or whatnot ) , what they do is turn a handgun into a machine gun. Maybe not the prop devices in the posted video; but there are plenty of videos showing idiots firing them full auto that don't say they're actually SOT FFLs.

What is this, 5-D Chess With Multiverse Time Travel?
Don't really understand why you think you can mak a point about this video by referencing another video, you want to talk about "those videos" you should post those videos. Guilt by association is sooooo 1950's

Also, how many pins do GLOCKS have?

 

[nwslopoke]

then I cant judge having not walked in those shoes...

I say you can make a sound judgment. Some environments are harder than others and your parents/family have a dramatic influence on the outcome. The gangbangers, drug dealers and criminals are a percentage of the neighborhood and unfortunately the most visible but not the majority.

It's extremely easy to get wrapped up in street BS because drugs, guns and everything else is laid out for free or the price of a "mission", but the choice is yours.

I can feel sorry for the ones who will never grow up or out of their bad situation and yell, lock em' up at the same time.

 

[thorborg]

It would also seem from the videos in question that with a little bit of work and effort ...
These same people could be identified and located.

Likely not going to happen. After all its not like they broke in to the white house wink wink. Besides, they are probably needed as poster children for propaganda efforts.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Likely not going to happen. After all its not like they broke in to the white house wink wink. Besides, they are probably needed as poster children for propaganda efforts.

And don't forget that (at least in the video posted in the OP) they didn't appear to break any laws

 

[thorborg]

Obviously not from Washington, they have magazine restrictions.