Other State Switchblades considered "arms" under the Second Amendment

[Koda]

"We conclude switchblades are not 'dangerous and unusual' weapons falling outside the protection of the Second Amendment," wrote Justice Serge Georges Jr. for the court in an opinion

Massachusetts switchblade ban overturned on Second Amendment grounds

The Second Amendment doesn’t protect guns; it protects the human right to self-defense.

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[Andy54Hawken]

Something to consider here :
The 2nd Amendment , in part states....
"....the right of the people to keep and bear Arms , shall not be infringed."

It is worth noticing that nowhere in the 2nd Amendment does it state what Arms one can keep or bear...
Nor does it state that one can only keep and bear Arms of a specific type or for a specific purpose.

Arms by the way means....
"weapons and ammunition, armaments "
At least according to the Oxford dictionary.
So....
I would agree that switchblade knives should considered Arms...and therefore legal to keep and bear.
However it really don't matter much what I think...since I don't make laws or get paid to interpret the Bill of Rights.
Andy

 

[wired]

Not unheard of . The MA taser ban was overturned on 2nd amendment grounds in Caetano v. MA

 

[Koda]

I always thought it was ironic some states ban switchblades but allow folders or fixed blade open carry. Or guns. But the ol switchblade... nope, no sir-ree that there is dangerous and too easy to deploy yer only gonna wanna kill someone with that

 

[wired]

I always thought it was ironic some states ban switchblades but allow folders or fixed blade open carry. Or guns. But the ol switchblade... nope, no sir-ree that there is dangerous and too easy to deploy yer only gonna wanna kill someone with that

Thats all part of the 1950's switchblade mania. Cheap Italian switchblades were flooding the country and greasers and negros were on every corner fileting innocent white girls. It was sensationalist movies that got them banned just like gangster movies got us the NFA in the 1930's and Miami vice got new machineguns banned in the 80's.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Not unheard of . The MA taser ban was overturned on 2nd amendment grounds in Caetano v. MA

Technically the State of MA only dropped the suit in Caetano after SCOTUS unanimously vacated Caetano's conviction in a "per curiam" opinion(technically, NOT a SCOTUS decision ) . It took Ramirez v. Commonwealth for the MA State Judiciary to overturn the stun gun ban.

 

[orygun]

I prefer automatic knives and manual transmissions.

 

[Koda]

Thats all part of the 1950's switchblade mania. Cheap Italian switchblades were flooding the country and greasers and negros were on every corner fileting innocent white girls. It was sensationalist movies that got them banned just like gangster movies got us the NFA in the 1930's and Miami vice got new machineguns banned in the 80's.

Isnt that also the same timeframe they tried to ban "saturday night specials"?
You know because if you wanted to murder someone a more expensive handgun would change your mind.... Just cant afford to off ol Bob these days lol

 

[wired]

Isnt that also the same timeframe they tried to ban "saturday night specials"?
You know because if you wanted to murder someone a more expensive handgun would change your mind.... Just cant afford to off ol Bob these days lol

That 68 GCA that took out cheap imports was a lot like the 89 assault weapon import ban . It was heavily supported by US Manufacturers so they would knock off the import gun pressure.

 

[Ura-Ki]

The Second Amendment specifically states, "ALL Bearable Interments" in what it considers protected, and under the Federalist Papers it is CLEARLY spelled out!

There is NO historical analog justifying this type of regulation, However, after the 1920's certain cities, counties, and states felt it was necessary to ban certain knives, the Bowie, Switchblade, Stiletto's, Kriss, and Butterfly knives and more were all banned for various reasons, and later, many cities and states further expanded these bans to limit the Blade length, and even the carry of fixed blades vs Folders, and how they could be carried, or not!

All throughout history, no weapon has been MORE feared then the Blade, rightly so, however, here in the Several States, As with firearms, Blades are also a much needed, and useful tool, and should NEVER be regulated or banned, no matter size, shape, type, or length or any other features, Blades ARE protected, and should be afforded that protection rightly under the 2nd!

 

[Koda]

the Bowie, Switchblade, Stiletto's, Kriss, and Butterfly knives and more were all banned for various reasons

Im willing to let the anti gunners ban the Butterfly knives, those things will cut your fingers off. Let the bad guys play with those things.

-sarcasm.

 

[CamoDeafie]

I'd be willing to trade career politicians (get term limits for all Congress positions), if it means we can get NFA, GCA, FOPA Hughes Amendments repealed and ATF abolished

 

[TTSX]

The Second Amendment specifically states, "ALL Bearable Interments" in what it considers protected, and under the Federalist Papers it is CLEARLY spelled out!

No it doesn't. It does not, at all, specifically state that. It might imply it, but the second amendment does not say "all bearable interments."

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

The federalist papers are also just a series of essays, not codified law.

 

[Yarome]

Some noteables from Heller:

"The 18th-century meaning is no different from the meaning today. The 1773 edition of Samuel Johnson's dictionary of English language defined "arms" as "weapons of offence, or armour of defence."

"Timothy Cunningham's important 1771 legal dictionary defined "arms" as "any thing that a man wears for his defence, or takes into his hands, or useth in wrath to cast at or strike another."

"Surely a most familiar meaning is, as the Constitution's Second Amendment … indicates: 'wear, bear, or carry … upon the person or in the clothing or in a pocket, for the purpose of being armed and ready for offensive or defensive action in a case of conflict with another person."

 

[Alexx1401]

I always thought it was ironic some states ban switchblades but allow folders or fixed blade open carry. Or guns. But the ol switchblade... nope, no sir-ree that there is dangerous and too easy to deploy yer only gonna wanna kill someone with that

Decades ago when I first discovered the "assisted opener" I was shocked. Had never seen one, had heard of them. When a kid the only auto knives I had ever owned or seen were VERY poorly made crap that was fun and of course illegal. So first time I was at some shop and asked to see one of the nice assisted I had to laugh. Saying this is legal, but the crap is not? Promptly bought one of course. Soon even the Wife bought her first one. As with so many laws, law makers had no clue what they were doing.

 

[Alexx1401]

Isnt that also the same timeframe they tried to ban "saturday night specials"?
You know because if you wanted to murder someone a more expensive handgun would change your mind.... Just cant afford to off ol Bob these days lol

Yep. When I was a kid many really thought they were going to almost completely ban all handguns. The law makers in many places were working real hard on it till they finally got some push back. Crime helped change a lot of people's mind about blindly going along with this idea. After Bobby got shot they put up a real hard push for it for a while.

 

[Ura-Ki]

I ain't givin mine up, been carrying this one for nearly 30 years, no matter what the "Law" says, it's better to be armed then not, and I ain't asking anyone for permission to protect myself!

 

[Koda]

Decades ago when I first discovered the "assisted opener" I was shocked. Had never seen one, had heard of them. When a kid the only auto knives I had ever owned or seen were VERY poorly made crap that was fun and of course illegal. So first time I was at some shop and asked to see one of the nice assisted I had to laugh. Saying this is legal, but the crap is not? Promptly bought one of course. Soon even the Wife bought her first one. As with so many laws, law makers had no clue what they were doing.

I thought the same thing when I first learned of them. Virtually the same thing in effect. Its kinda like the bump stock of the full auto, lol.
IIRC some states classify assisted opener as switchblades? I cant remember but thought Wa. prohibited them?

 

[gmerkt]

Baseball bat with nails in it?

 

[TTSX]

Baseball bat with nails in it?

Personal favorite of mine