National Feds insist Second Amendment doesn't protect machine guns

[Koda]

Aside from laws restricting what arms could be carried by enslaved and free non-whites, and laws requiring militia members (EG All military age males) to have equivalent arms to the military, what gun control laws were there very early in our history? Local restrictions on carry?

I'm genuinely curious because, I'll admit, gun control before the 20th century isn't something I've really looked into much.

Well I consider those laws part of the history but that aside I have read that concealed carry in general back in the 1800s was considered what criminals do so Ive heard several states banned concealed carry. I cant cite what states as its odd this info isn't easily searchable. A scant mention of this in Wikipedia suggests The constitutions of Kentucky (1850), Louisiana (1879), Mississippi (1890) permitted their respective Legislatures to regulate or prohibit concealed carry, though I don't know if they actually did.
Regardless, even if we start the history with the 1934 NFA act that alone deviates from the 2A "shall not infringe" and the point being its widely accepted, especially by the vast majority of gun owners even to this day.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Whatever our opinions are, and regardless of what is written in the 2nd Amendment; the point is that SCOTUS have consistently upheld NFA 1934 and GCA 1968 as "good laws", basing Heller to Rahimi decisions on them.. The Hughes Amendment to FOPA 1986 though? This may be the case that overturns it, or it may reinforce it.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Wrong thread lmao

 

[The Heretic]

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M35A3? Allison Auto and Cat 3116 engine.. does have a habitat body

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For a SHTF vehicle, you want a manual transmission; maybe the military trucks have a special automatic, but I don't think so. You can push/pull/roll start a vehicle with a manual transmission, but very few if any vehicles with automatics can be started in that manner. Also, the M35 trucks are only 2.5 ton trucks.

The M8xx era of military 5 ton trucks mostly have manual transmissions and the Cummins NHC250 diesel engine (better than the Cat 3116) - a very good combination. Mostly mechanical with no (or very little) electronics in the drivetrain.

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My two SHTF vehicles (not including my SUV) are manual transmission mechanical injection diesel powered vehicles.

 

[titsonritz]

The Second Amendment insists machine guns doesn't protect feds.

 

[CamoDeafie]

The Second Amendment insists machine guns doesn't protect feds.

True the 2A insists that the Feds aren't protected from citizens

Edit. Just that citizens arms are supposed to be protected from the Feds

 

[bcp]

Bruce

 

[Koda]

A short skit on how the 2A became law...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1921543457006334325

View: https://x.com/amuse/status/1921543457006334325

 

[FourTeeFive]

So we're back with FRT but still can't have them in WA.

Trump admin permits sale of device that allows standard firearms to fire like machine guns

Gun control groups condemned the move as “a dangerous backroom deal spearheaded by Trump’s general counsel” that “effectively legalized machine guns.”

www.nbcnews.com

 

[bradsteen]

So we're back with FRT but still can't have them in WA.

Trump admin permits sale of device that allows standard firearms to fire like machine guns

Gun control groups condemned the move as “a dangerous backroom deal spearheaded by Trump’s general counsel” that “effectively legalized machine guns.”

www.nbcnews.com

Of course. Because "we're special".

 

[FourTeeFive]

Of course. Because "we're special".

What would we do without these politicians protecting us from ourselves?

I do have to say my annual firearm expenditures have significantly reduced under Inslee and Ferguson. Bastards...

 

[bradsteen]

What would we do without these politicians protecting us themselves from ourselves their constituents?

FIFY

 

[Andy54Hawken]

The Turd takes a dump...
Gun owners get their lumps...
And the beatings go on and on and on....

We already have over 20.000 firearm laws in the USA...
If laws , bans , requirements , etc were the solution....there wouldn't be a problem.

If you want the same results...do as you always have done.
If you want something different...do something different.

'Course laws like the OP ain't really 'bout safety...
They are however about making exercising a Right , as impossible as can be , So as to keep people from being armed.
It is all about control....not gun control...but people control.
Andy

Oops.....I posted this in the wrong thread....oh well it don't make it any less true.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Oregon still has that SB 243 thing pending that would outlaw such triggers (FRT, Hellfire crank, Glock Switch, and autosears) unless they're exclusively for registered MGs.

Even if (riiight ....... ) the Feds come out and repeal the NFA and Hughes Amendment, that would still leave States free to do as much restrictions on the 2A as they could get away with...

I've said it before. The anti gun people really are acting as if 2A reads

"A military well regulated by Congress being necessary for the national security of the State, the right of the government to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, with the citizens being restricted"

 

[FourTeeFive]

We already have over 20.000 firearm laws in the USA...
If laws , bans , requirements , etc were the solution....there wouldn't be a problem.

Meanwhile, Glock "fun" switches have been around for a long time, but somehow the urban kids found out about them. Oh no kids, they're illegal!

570% increase in Glock switches found at crime scenes, ATF speaks out

Gun conversion devices, or gun switches have gained popularity in recent years and continue to raise concerns for law enforcement.

www.wtoc.com