Stanford Study: Most Mass Shooters Have Undiagnosed Psychiatric Illnesses

[American123]

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See anyone try to spin that. Lol.

And here I thought you were quoting Biden.

 

[nammac]

Who is to say who has mental illness, when the patients are running the asylum…

 

[pogi]

This is a slippery slope, the report states undocumented issues, which means that a physician had not diagnosed a previous issue that could have prevented a tragedy. This report could bring a push for psychological evaluations to buy our toys. Another thought is that the report did not mention documented issues, which is good and bad, as a visit to the psychiatrist for PTSD or a marriage disagreement could potentially bar your from purchases.

I had a mentally ill neighbor (schizo + bipolar) that had a firearm and the police/her handlers did not care in the least bit.

 

[American123]

A legitimate concern I have is the attempt to argue that evil people do evil things simply as a result of "mental illness," it follows the predictable ideology that people aren't personally responsible for their actions, that something else made them do it. Or if they didn't have access to guns they wouldn't have done a violent act.

 

[The Heretic]

A legitimate concern I have is the attempt to argue that evil people do evil things simply as a result of "mental illness," it follows the predictable ideology that people aren't personally responsible for their actions, that something else made them do it. Or if they didn't have access to guns they wouldn't have done a violent act.

Or the fact that people who have a mental illness are dangerous just because they are ill. It is after all, a small subset of the mentally ill that are dangerous to the public.

 

[American123]

Or the fact that people who have a mental illness are dangerous just because they are ill. It is after all, a small subset of the mentally ill that are dangerous to the public.

And then we have the religiously motivated group and that seems to be conveniently left out of the equation.

 

[RicInOR]

Corona movie theater shooter blames his actions on voices in his head, although the fact that he stopped taking his schizophrenia prescription probably has more to do with it Corona movie theater shooting suspect says ‘voices’ led him to kill In an interview from jail, Joseph Jimenez said he’s been diagnosed with schizophrenia but had not recently taken his medication. www.pe.com

 

[American123]

Corona movie theater shooter blames his actions on voices in his head, although the fact that he stopped taking his schizophrenia prescription probably has more to do with it Corona movie theater shooting suspect says ‘voices’ led him to kill In an interview from jail, Joseph Jimenez said he’s been diagnosed with schizophrenia but had not recently taken his medication. www.pe.com

The voices in my head say "hang him from the nearest sufficient tree and be done with it."

 

[nammac]

Corona movie theater shooter blames his actions on voices in his head, although the fact that he stopped taking his schizophrenia prescription probably has more to do with it Corona movie theater shooting suspect says ‘voices’ led him to kill In an interview from jail, Joseph Jimenez said he’s been diagnosed with schizophrenia but had not recently taken his medication. www.pe.com

This is why I always sit in the last row of a movie theatre, with my back against the wall and a full view of the theatre…

 

[American123]

This is why I always sit in the last row of a movie theatre, with my back against the wall and a full view of the theatre…

You still go to movies? I bought a 65" TV for my wife as a present with the condition, as a result, we would never have to go to the theatre again.

 

[RobMa]

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Cry me a river you POS AG

 

[nammac]

You still go to movies? I bought a 65" TV for my wife as a present with the condition, as a result, we would never have to go to the theatre again.

I hear ya, we're running a 70", but there's nothing quite like a theatre, just a different experience…

 

[American123]

I hear ya, we're running a 70", but there's nothing quite like a theatre, just a different experience…

That's what the wife says. To which I retort:

You're right, if I have to go to the bathroom, I can't pause the movie. If I missed a part or didn't hear something I can't rewind it. If there are obnoxious, smelly, or otherwise disruptive people in the audience I'm forced to endure them throughout the movie. I'm not allowed to bring all the food I want, or drinks, I can't lay down on the couch. I have to pay, again, to watch it multiple times. I have to travel to and from the location and deal with traffic each direction.

All those different experiences for about $40 compared to being at home on the TV that paid for itself after about 11 movie trips.

Not criticizing your enjoyment of the theatre, just sharing the banter we've had at my household on the subject.

 

[nammac]

That's what the wife says. To which I retort:

You're right, if I have to go to the bathroom, I can't pause the movie. If I missed a part or didn't hear something I can't rewind it. If there are obnoxious, smelly, or otherwise disruptive people in the audience I'm forced to endure them throughout the movie. I'm not allowed to bring all the food I want, or drinks, I can't lay down on the couch. I have to pay, again, to watch it multiple times. I have to travel to and from the location and deal with traffic each direction.

All those different experiences for about $40 compared to being at home on the TV that paid for itself after about 11 movie trips.

Not criticizing your enjoyment of the theatre, just sharing the banter we've had at my household on the subject.

All good arguments for staying away from the theatre. The cost, dealing with other people, distractions, et.al. Things to certainly think about.

 

[titsonritz]

Corona movie theater shooter blames his actions on voices in his head, although the fact that he stopped taking his schizophrenia prescription probably has more to do with it Corona movie theater shooting suspect says ‘voices’ led him to kill In an interview from jail, Joseph Jimenez said he’s been diagnosed with schizophrenia but had not recently taken his medication. www.pe.com

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"Voices in my head..."




Honestly, I don't care if some one has schizophrenia or otherwise "not responsible for their actions" they pull this kind of stuff, I say eliminate them.

 

[RobMa]

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Stanford Study: Most Mass Shooters Have Undiagnosed Psychiatric Illnesses

Over half of the perpetrators were found to have schizophrenia, with psychotic symptoms including the belief they were receiving messages from demons and seeing hallucinations ordering them to “kill, burn or destroy.”

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Domestic Mass Shooters

The Association With Unmedicated and Untreated Psychiatric Illness

Glick, Ira D. MD*; Cerfolio, Nina E. MD†; Kamis, Danielle MD‡; Laurence, Michael JD§ Domestic Mass Shooters, Journal of Clinical Psychopharmacology: June 7, 2021 - Volume Publish Ahead of Print - Issue -
doi: 10.1097/JCP.0000000000001417

Twenty-eight of 35 cases in which the assailant survived had a psychiatric diagnosis—18 with schizophrenia, 3 with bipolar I disorders, 2 with delusional disorders, persecutory type, 2 with personality disorders (1 paranoid and 1 borderline), 2 with substance-related disorders without other psychiatric diagnoses, and 1 with posttraumatic stress disorder. Four had no psychiatric diagnosis, and in 3, we did not have enough information to make a diagnosis.

Of 15 of 20 cases in which the assailant died, 8 had schizophrenia. None of those diagnosed with psychiatric illnesses were treated with medication.

Conclusions

A significant proportion of mass shooters experienced unmedicated and untreated psychiatric disorder.

Copyright © 2021 Wolters Kluwer Health, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Well that's it, pre-crime time…. Call Tom cruise..

 

[RobMa]

The anti-gun narrative is that "anyone" can go off the deep end at any time.. There are no "mentally ill" and "non-mentally ill" camps. Only one (1) long continuum of relative insanity.

Exactly ! So take guns away from everyone lest they kill us all!! Enter sarcasm here…

 

[Certaindeaf]

Everybody is crazy.

 

[RobMa]

except there is already a due process to mentally adjudicate someone which prohibits them from guns.

The problem here is most of these cases the suspect has a history that probably already qualifies them, but at some point there will be people that dont have a history and there is no way to know they are about to flip out and society shut down mental institutions years ago in leiu of letting people medicate themselves and live in the population.... not working out so well.

"except there is already a due process to mentally adjudicate someone which prohibits them from guns."

Ah, but there are those who will gladly change the wording's within the standard to more easily deprive people of their Second Amendment rights.

 

[ma96782]

I had a mentally ill neighbor (schizo + bipolar) that had a firearm and the police/her handlers did not care in the least bit.

Yup....."Red Flag" laws can be useful in some situations.

But...
IMHO, you need to go to court to get them. It's not good enough that a judge just signs off without a hearing. Same for those TROs (temp restraining orders).

Yup.....seen those abused too.

Imagine.......
If that neighbor filed a "Red Flag" request (or TRO) against YOU.

Yeah....
Without a hearing......who is the "crazy one"?

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