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You should learn with a .22 single shot.
I've got an H&R Sportsman bull barrel .22-250 with big glass that's very accurate an a hoot to shoot. I missed the boat on the barrel exchange program. I would have liked a .308 bull but lagged until Remington decided to run them into the ground. I'd like a Ruger #1 in 7X57. PAX
 
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You should learn with a .22 single shot.
I've got an H&R Sportsman bull barrel .22-250 with big glass that's very accurate an a hoot to shoot. I missed the bot on the barrel exchange program. I would have like a .308 bull but lagged until Remington decided to run them into the ground. I'd like a Ruger #1 in 7X57. PAX
The fat barrel H & R's just might be the most accuracy for the least amount of money. My Sportsman is a .223, and it runs right alongside a 700 BDL Varminter for accuracy.
Trigger was heavy when I got it, but that's been remedied sweetly.

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An attraction to Single Shots doesn't necessarily mean a large cash outlay. The Burris Fullfield 4.5-14x cost more than this rifle which requires no baby-coddling care when put to hard work in a Prairie Dog town.
 
Started my pistol hunting days with a 44 Mag Contender and then picked up a Ruger #1 in 30/06.
Did a lot of miles with it but finally let it go to a friend of mine that made me an offer I couldn't refuse.
Very handy rifle but was Very fussy about the loads it liked.
Hunted with a guy years ago that was a good hunter and all he ever carried was a H&R Topper in 30/30 he picked up at a pawn shop.
 
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Not a single shot (it could be) but a 4-shot shooter with one in the chamber and 3 round mag, Savage 325 estate sale salvage in .30-30. Before I got is I wasn't aware of bolt guns in that caliber. Turned out nice and extremely accurate. Great loaner for a first-time deer hunter or female type. Light recoil. PAX
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It looks like I might be one of odd guys out, I don't remember the last time I didn't hunt with an ar15 or 10. I need to spend more time behind my bolt guns, maybe this will be the year.
 
For several years two of my modern big game rifles were....
A Ruger No. 1 in .45-70....
And a pre-war Savage 219 in .30-30.
Never felt under gunned with either of them.

Times got tough and I lost my job...so both needed to be sold to make ends meet.
Loved both rifles...but you gotta do what you need to , in order to support your family.

One day I will get another .30-30 rifle....Washington firearm's laws be dammed.
Andy
 
For several years two of my modern big game rifles were....
A Ruger No. 1 in .45-70....
And a pre-war Savage 219 in .30-30.
Never felt under gunned with either of them.

Times got tough and I lost my job...so both needed to be sold to make ends meet.
Loved both rifles...but you gotta do what need to , in order to support your family.

One day I will get another .30-30 rifle....Washington firearm's laws be dammed.
Andy
I sole all my stuff, except a S&W M10 .38 and a 10/22 twice in the first 20 years of marriage. Haven't had the need in 30 years, close but cars went first. PAX
 
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Not a single shot (it could be) but a 4-shot shooter with one in the chamber and 3 round mag, Savage 325 estate sale salvage in .30-30. Before I got is I wasn't aware of bolt guns in that caliber. Turned out nice and extremely accurate. Great loaner for a first-time deer hunter or female type. Light recoil. PAX
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325 is the original Savage. Later replaced by the 340.
That ol' .30-30 round. 130 years down the road, it keeps on bringin' home the meat. Gotta love it.
Lately been thinking about a Henry single in either .30-30 or maybe .450 Bushmaster, but a Blaser in 8mm Mauser might be fun, too.
 
Not a single shot (it could be) but a 4-shot shooter with one in the chamber and 3 round mag, Savage 325 estate sale salvage in .30-30. Before I got is I wasn't aware of bolt guns in that caliber. Turned out nice and extremely accurate. Great loaner for a first-time deer hunter or female type. Light recoil. PAX
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Over the years, at least five bolt-action Savage .30-30's have traipsed through my possession, all but one ended up in a needful young hunter's hands. (I kept a near-new looking early 340 with the original factory-supplied Lyman peep).

Extremely accurate is an extremely accurate description of how each one shot.

One young fella, age 12 when he got his from me still has it (married now in his 30's), and it is his primary hunting rifle for Coast Range work. Elk and deer again and again. I know this because he won't stop calling me each time he is successful with the gun.

The ability to shoot pointy bullets and new powders put the ol' "thutty thutty" in a whole new class of performance.

(Incidentally, the Remington M788 was offered in .30-30 as well.)
 
Over the years, at least five bolt-action Savage .30-30's have traipsed through my possession, all but one ended up in a needful young hunter's hands. (I kept a near-new looking early 340 with the original factory-supplied Lyman peep).

Extremely accurate is an extremely accurate description of how each one shot.

One young fella, age 12 when he got his from me still has it (married now in his 30's), and it is his primary hunting rifle for Coast Range work. Elk and deer again an it is his primary hunting rifle for Coast Range work. Elk and deer again and again. I know this because he won't stop calling me each time he is successful with the gun.d again. I know this because he won't stop calling me each time he is successful with the gun.

The ability to shoot pointy bullets and new powders put the ol' "thutty thutty" in a whole new class of performance.

(Incidentally, the Remington M788 was offered in .30-30 as well.)
Yes, the pointy boolits are a notch up on performance. So much so I chased down a Savage 99E in .30-30. I would have liked an older one with a Schnabl forearm, but they've fallen into collector status, and most are well worn.
I'd like a peep on my 325 then I'd put a hood on. Makes for fast acquisition.
Got scammed on this one so I'm still looking. PAX
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325 is the original Savage. Later replaced by the 340.
That ol' .30-30 round. 130 years down the road, it keeps on bringin' home the meat. Gotta love it.
Lately been thinking about a Henry single in either .30-30 or maybe .450 Bushmaster, but a Blaser in 8mm Mauser might be fun, too.
Nope! The first was the Savage Sporter and Savage Super Sporter, which meant it came with a much better rear sight. I sold the gun to a guy that wanted the sight, but I wouldn't part it out.
Another gun I prolly should have kept.
 
Yeah, plenty of folks still hunt with single-shots. It's not really a disadvantage if you know your rifle and can make that first shot count. In fact, a lot of hunters like them because it forces you to slow down and focus more. As for hunting partners, most won't care what you bring as long as you're safe and ethical. Some might even think it's pretty cool, you don't see scoped single-shots every day.
 
Yeah, plenty of folks still hunt with single-shots. It's not really a disadvantage if you know your rifle and can make that first shot count. In fact, a lot of hunters like them because it forces you to slow down and focus more. As for hunting partners, most won't care what you bring as long as you're safe and ethical. Some might even think it's pretty cool, you don't see scoped single-shots every day.
I apologize if I am belaboring the point, but here again is an unfounded belief that the action type on one's gun should have a bearing on how one conducts one's self while hunting.

We MUST ALWAYS make that first shot count. We MUST ALWAYS "slow down" and "focus more", whether we are carrying a Single Shot, Lever Action, Pump Action, Bolt Action, OR Semi-Automatic.

Additional ammunition carried within the gun's magazine does not "relieve" the hunter of any responsibility to hunt carefully and with full attention.

Single Shot rifles DO NOT and SHOULD NOT change one iota of how one hunts. They certainly have no means to "force" such.

The remedy for these beliefs is simple: Hunt with a Single Shot until it is learned that a repeater grants no license for less care, attention and focus for the hunt.

The hunter has NO RIGHT to a second shot. It is an undeserved gift toward fixing a careless mistake.:cool:

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I apologize if I am belaboring the point, but here again is an unfounded belief that the action type on one's gun should have a bearing on how one conducts one's self while hunting.

We MUST ALWAYS make that first shot count. We MUST ALWAYS "slow down" and "focus more", whether we are carrying a Single Shot, Lever Action, Pump Action, Bolt Action, OR Semi-Automatic.

Additional ammunition carried within the gun's magazine does not "relieve" the hunter of any responsibility to hunt carefully and with full attention.

Single Shot rifles DO NOT and SHOULD NOT change one iota of how one hunts. They certainly have no means to "force" such.

The remedy for these beliefs is simple: Hunt with a Single Shot until it is learned that a repeater grants no license for less care, attention and focus for the hunt.

The hunter has NO RIGHT to a second shot. It is an undeserved gift toward fixing a mistake.:cool:
Fair point, I don't disagree with you at all, we should always be aiming to make that first shot count, no matter what's in our hands. I just meant that for some people, hunting with a single-shot can feel like it naturally slows them down a bit, because they know they won't have a quick follow-up. It's not that repeaters make anyone less responsible, more that the mindset is different for some folks. At the end of the day, like you said, the responsibility and ethic should be the same regardless of the action type.
 
Nope! The first was the Savage Sporter and Savage Super Sporter, which meant it came with a much better rear sight. I sold the gun to a guy that wanted the sight, but I wouldn't part it out.
Another gun I prolly should have kept.
Have to admit, "Sporter" and "Super Sporter" are new terms to me, so I looked them up.
Only reference I can find to a sporter is a model 23aa which is a .22 rimfire.
I did find a Super Sporter in .30-30 but it looks like a different gun.
Maybe I should called it a STEVENS 325...better?
However, my point was that between the 325 and the 340, the 325 came first, thus it was the original.
Original of ALL .30-30 bolt actions? No, but did I state that? No.
 

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