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Well said, it's always best when we police ourselves.Meanwhile, as long as the thread is interesting and civil, we really don't need a traffic cop.
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Well said, it's always best when we police ourselves.Meanwhile, as long as the thread is interesting and civil, we really don't need a traffic cop.
Just for fun I looked at post #60...And it doesn't say "It depends"....The OP really met it's purpose 100 posts ago.
... The answer is; "It depends."
Man proposes that running an action can cause a malfunction in even the BEST scenarios,
Other man states that won't happen with good training and well conditioned weapons don't malfunction.
Man says things can get hard and you can get ham-fisted with adrenaline pumping,
Other man says that won't happen with good training, all people can run actions malfunction free, states it's "unrealistic".
Man offers video evidence of empty chamber carrying going wrong.
Other man splits hairs/ dismisses because locations are different (no bed room so it doesn't count?) despite drawing STRONG parallels for close quarters shooting, or lack there-of.
Other man states;"If you live in a home, a break in will take time, make noise, and the residents will have natural advantages of "home turf" and generally time to grab and chamber a gun. Those guns are generally in a drawer or on a shelf. If there are kids in the home, prudent to keep them unloaded for safety. Also, home invasions are super risky and of low reward for home invaders, so they are FAR more rare than cash rich instant score convenience stores. So, more rare, and higher risk for invaders, and residents have ample time to respond."
Man would argue that some break-ins occur without a lot of noise, some thieves are professional and might be able to bypass securities, poison/kill/distract dogs and pick locks- these things aren't unheard of nor uncommon.
Man would offer evidence for the question; "Can you even present 1 example of a person who died or was raped or whatever because s/he was unable to chamber a round?"
In the form of [GRAPHIC VIDEO] Is Israeli Carry (Condition 3) Too Slow for EDC Personal Defense? - The Truth About Guns, but he knows it'll be dismissed with a "well he wasn't at home so it doesn't count." Despite the imploring of Other man didn't specify location.
Other man states; "Also, home invasions are super risky and of low reward for home invaders, so they are FAR more rare than cash rich instant score convenience stores. So, more rare, and higher risk for invaders, and residents have ample time to respond."
Man would offer empirical evidence than most home invasions occur when you're not home, only 27.6% occur when people are home and thus less risky that convenience stores (cited source) https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/vdhb.pdf. 27.6% does seem to be lower than the number of convenience stores that are occupied by at least one employee at all times. My guess? 100% of them, probably. Only 17% of the homes in the report had security systems and probably 100% of convenience stores I've been in in the last 25 years (don't remember the first 5) have at least a camera on the front door. Still seems like they'd be easier? Well, convenience store employee(s) and even customers could fight off a thief, but you can't stop a burglary if you're not home, like 72.4% of the homes that are robbed when vacant.
Other man would probably dismiss info for some reason.
Home invasion robberies- 3.7 million instances with 2.5 million in losses accrued. (2003-2007 I cant get reputable info for 2017) (https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/vdhb.pdf)
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Convenience store robberies- 17,401 (2017) (FBI Releases 2016 Crime Statistics)
"Not difficult concepts here." Except your concepts are empirically false.
Ill stick to classifieds.
Keep your guns disassembled with each piece buried in an underground vault guarded by minotaurs or take a shower with your locked and loaded M1A. ZFG
I'll do me (if the wife isn't in to it).
Love them lolDon't you all love these divisive topics that just get us all arguing? I see a trend.....
No. I loaded my gun once and I died.I was watching a video a few minutes ago and saw the the ten commandments of firearm safety by Remington. The 2nd commandment reads, "Firearms should be unloaded when not actually in use." Maybe this commandment doesn't apply if you have it as a dedicated home defense weapon, then keeping it loaded means it has an ongoing potential use. I don't have children at home or I might think differently about whether I keep my gun loaded or unloaded. If I wake up hearing a noise and it's a prowler who has broken into my home, it seems too late to scramble to find the ammo for my gun. Why have a home defense weapon if it remains unloaded? I am open to everyone's thinking, and I did a search but found nothing on here to answer my question.
And, I had NOTHING to do with perceived argument.Don't you all love these divisive topics that just get us all arguing? I see a trend.....
I got my answer a long time ago, and Andy was correct!Personally I think it was answered with post #7....
Andy
Good News....The forum is built for stories...1) I once answered the door with my sidearm in Cond.3, realized that had he attacked I could not have responded quickly enough.