Seattle Times: Yes on 594, no on 591

Dave Workman

Messages
3,360
Reactions
2,902
As expected, the Seattle Times is in the tank for the gun grabbers and Bloomberg. Note that they completely gloss over the serious flaws in 594 with transfers, discussed in their own debate video. The duplicity is outrageous.

http://seattletimes.com/html/editorials/2023988185_guninitiativesedit06xml.html
Then tell them so, and THEN, go visit the POGR website and kick in $20, or vce versa. Donate to POGR / I-591 and THEN tell the Seattle Times you think their reasoning sucks and as a result you just contributed to I-591.
 
Messages
121
Reactions
35
Fully expected the Times to support 594 and not support 591.

With that said, I think that this is a decision that many people are going to form their own opinions about and vote accordingly, unlike something such as a tax levy or a less polarizing issue (although the library levy a couple years ago passed despite the Times not supporting it).
 

Dave Workman

Messages
3,360
Reactions
2,902
Can the mainstream press be that out-of-touch about gun rights?


Editorials over the weekend at both ends of the country — in the Seattle Times endorsing a far-reaching and invasive gun control initiative and in the Newark Star-Ledger blasting New Jersey Gov. Chris Cristie’s veto of a magazine capacity limit — and the public reaction are cause to wonder whether newspaper editorial boards are wholly disconnected from their readers, if not reality altogether.


<broken link removed>
 
Messages
1,217
Reactions
1,510
Letters to the editor. 2nd most read portion of a newspaper. You do have a public voice if you can get your letter published (Seattle Times, local paper, where ever). Even if it is to sway a few voters on minor points. Washington defenders, get writing!
 
Last edited:

Dave Workman

Messages
3,360
Reactions
2,902
Letters to the editor. 2nd most read portion of a newspaper. You do have a public voice if you can get your letter published (Seattle Times, local paper, where ever). Even if it is to sway a few voters on minor points. Washington defenders, get writing!
Quite right. Before you click on "send," of course, re-read your letter and MAKE SURE YOUR SPELLING is CORRECT. Common mistakes are "your" versus "you're" and "there" versus "their."
 
Messages
259
Reactions
183
Quite right. Before you click on "send," of course, re-read your letter and MAKE SURE YOUR SPELLING is CORRECT. Common mistakes are "your" versus "you're" and "there" versus "their."
...
2) It's spelled "amendment", not "ammendment". We don't need to give them the tools to prove we are the stupid, ugly and non-spelling rednecks that they claim we are.
 
Messages
557
Reactions
380
I don't think anyone is surprised that that's the way the endorsment went. I am only somewhat surprised that they glossed over the details of 594 as much as they did. Didn't really expect good or objective journalism from them.

I was more than mildly ammused by the Seattle Times guy begging for subscribers at the Taste of Tacoma the other weekend. He reeked of desperation. He basically told us the paper is going under unless they can get more subscriptions, "so please help keep this institution of Seattle news!" I would be more happy to see them institutionalized than to consider them real news.
 

Dave Workman

Messages
3,360
Reactions
2,902
Big push beginning for Wash. gun control initiative

The push is on for Washington State’s 18-page gun control scheme, Initiative 594, with the Seattle Times publishing a Jerry Large column this morning that strongly suggests the measure is about tracking firearms and that the “universal background check” at the heart of this measure is to reveal “when guns change hands, whether it’s a sale or a family member borrowing a gun, and makes failure to have a check done a crime.”


<broken link removed>
 
Messages
242
Reactions
69
<broken link removed>

I just read the editorial & comments. Didn't see any compelling reason to even consider 594 as a legitimate measure to reduce crimes committed with firearms.

Jerry Large is a Large waste of column space in the paper.
 

Dave Workman

Messages
3,360
Reactions
2,902
<broken link removed>

I just read the editorial & comments. Didn't see any compelling reason to even consider 594 as a legitimate measure to reduce crimes committed with firearms.

Jerry Large is a Large waste of column space in the paper.

Remember that at election time. The Elway poll has the odds very much tilted for passage of 594 and I-591 is not in good shape. Gun owners have just over three months to turn that around.

> There are a whole lot of gun owners out there who have been way too willing to let a handful of people carry their water for too long.


This one is for all the marbles. The NRA has a slogan: "All In." And earlier this year at the NRA convention, they launched an advertising video that seems tailor-made for the dueling initiatives battle here:

Bloomberg's Millions
“Bloomberg is one guy with millions. We’re millions with our 25 bucks.” Show Bloomberg that your membership WILL stop him cold!"

Now's the time to kick in $25, about the price of a box of shells for your deer rifle, to build a campaign warchest for I-591 that will help stop I-594 and the gun prohibition lobby.

POGR
12500 N.E. Tenth Place
Bellevue, WA 98005
Attn: Phil Watson
http://wagunrights.org/
 
Last edited:
Messages
259
Reactions
183
Further thought on paragraph 4(f)(v) "
....while hunting if the hunting is legal in all places where the person to whom the firearm is transferred possesses the firearm and the person to whom the firearm is transferred has completed all training and holds all licenses or permits required for such hunting, provided that any temporary transfer allowed by this subsection is permitted only if the person to whom the firearm is transferred is not prohibited from possessing firearms under state or federal law; ..."

Since game regulations require certain calibers and above for certain game, at certain times of the year, not all firearms are always exempted, even if you call it a "hunting trip".... And you still can't practice before the season starts with someone other than your spouse/domestic partner's firearm, without doing a UBC, if this proposal were to pass.

:-/
 

UPCOMING EVENTS

Arms Collectors of SW Washington Gun Show
Battleground Community Center
912 E Main St, Battle Ground, WA 98604, USA
Rimfire Challenge Dec 12th @ DRRC
Douglas Ridge Rifle Club
27787 OR-224, Eagle Creek, OR 97022, USA
Albany Rifle & Pistol Club (ARPC) Gun Show
Linn County Expo Center
3700 Knox Butte Rd E, Albany, OR 97322, USA

LATEST RESOURCE REVIEWS

  • Gator's Custom Guns
    5.00 star(s)
    Best true Gun shop ive been in for some time
    Cool stuff in stock rather than the top 10 at corporate box stores They moved to a larger place I have to go back and spend more money. I like to...
  • Adaptive Firing Solutions
    5.00 star(s)
    Adaptive Firing Solutions. A+
    5 stars does not do Adaptive Firing Solutions justice. I have done business with him multiple times and wish I could give at least 12 stars...
  • Limitless America
    5.00 star(s)
    Awesome shop
    Love this shop. Purchased a few items from them. Always have a lot of parts in stock without much markup. Purchased two cans this summer from them...
  • Gator's Custom Guns
    5.00 star(s)
    Great, old school gun shop
    The store is a treasure trove I have found magazines for H&K, Ruger and M1A's and at great prices. The staff is knowledgeable and friendly and...
    • GWS
  • HighLine Firearms
    4.00 star(s)
    great place
    nice guy, local
Top Bottom