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Seattle Times: Yes on 594, no on 591

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by 8ball, Jul 5, 2014.

  1. 8ball

    8ball WA Quit talkin' and start chalking!

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  2. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Then tell them so, and THEN, go visit the POGR website and kick in $20, or vce versa. Donate to POGR / I-591 and THEN tell the Seattle Times you think their reasoning sucks and as a result you just contributed to I-591.
     
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  3. PNWHunter

    PNWHunter Covington, WA Member

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    Fully expected the Times to support 594 and not support 591.

    With that said, I think that this is a decision that many people are going to form their own opinions about and vote accordingly, unlike something such as a tax levy or a less polarizing issue (although the library levy a couple years ago passed despite the Times not supporting it).
     
  4. Bacchus

    Bacchus The Republic Active Member

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    I quit on the Seattle Times years ago. I didn't want to finance their agenda with my subscription money.
     
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  5. TCOV

    TCOV OLYMPIC PENINSULA Active Member

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    Canceled my subscription today and explained why.
     
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  6. PNWHunter

    PNWHunter Covington, WA Member

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    Good for you!

    I cancelled my subscription a little while ago, but them supporting 594 reaffirms my decision.
     
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  7. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Can the mainstream press be that out-of-touch about gun rights?


    Editorials over the weekend at both ends of the country — in the Seattle Times endorsing a far-reaching and invasive gun control initiative and in the Newark Star-Ledger blasting New Jersey Gov. Chris Cristie’s veto of a magazine capacity limit — and the public reaction are cause to wonder whether newspaper editorial boards are wholly disconnected from their readers, if not reality altogether.


    http://www.examiner.com/article/can-the-mainstream-press-be-that-out-of-touch-about-gun-rights
     
  8. GunnyG

    GunnyG The Highlands Active Member

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    "Objective"ly, 1 am willing to bet that you could still disrupt their echo chamber, weighing in on these sort of stories for the year or so since they went to the "paid " route, while not being a paid subscriber ;-)

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  9. tiggers97

    tiggers97 United States Well-Known Member

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    Letters to the editor. 2nd most read portion of a newspaper. You do have a public voice if you can get your letter published (Seattle Times, local paper, where ever). Even if it is to sway a few voters on minor points. Washington defenders, get writing!
     
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  10. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Quite right. Before you click on "send," of course, re-read your letter and MAKE SURE YOUR SPELLING is CORRECT. Common mistakes are "your" versus "you're" and "there" versus "their."
     
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    GunnyG The Highlands Active Member

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    ...
    2) It's spelled "amendment", not "ammendment". We don't need to give them the tools to prove we are the stupid, ugly and non-spelling rednecks that they claim we are.
     
  12. balaperdida

    balaperdida eastern idaho Well-Known Member

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    My favorite is "...right to keep and bare arms...".
     
  13. jekbrown

    jekbrown vancouver, WA, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way Active Member

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    wait, people still read newspapers?! :confused:
     
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  14. BigStick

    BigStick Sherwood, OR Well-Known Member

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    I don't think anyone is surprised that that's the way the endorsment went. I am only somewhat surprised that they glossed over the details of 594 as much as they did. Didn't really expect good or objective journalism from them.

    I was more than mildly ammused by the Seattle Times guy begging for subscribers at the Taste of Tacoma the other weekend. He reeked of desperation. He basically told us the paper is going under unless they can get more subscriptions, "so please help keep this institution of Seattle news!" I would be more happy to see them institutionalized than to consider them real news.
     
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    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Big push beginning for Wash. gun control initiative

    The push is on for Washington State’s 18-page gun control scheme, Initiative 594, with the Seattle Times publishing a Jerry Large column this morning that strongly suggests the measure is about tracking firearms and that the “universal background check” at the heart of this measure is to reveal “when guns change hands, whether it’s a sale or a family member borrowing a gun, and makes failure to have a check done a crime.”


    http://www.examiner.com/article/big-push-beginning-for-wash-gun-control-initiative
     
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    Mr. Ben Snohomish Co. Active Member

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    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Remember that at election time. The Elway poll has the odds very much tilted for passage of 594 and I-591 is not in good shape. Gun owners have just over three months to turn that around.

    > There are a whole lot of gun owners out there who have been way too willing to let a handful of people carry their water for too long.


    This one is for all the marbles. The NRA has a slogan: "All In." And earlier this year at the NRA convention, they launched an advertising video that seems tailor-made for the dueling initiatives battle here:

    Bloomberg's Millions
    “Bloomberg is one guy with millions. We’re millions with our 25 bucks.” Show Bloomberg that your membership WILL stop him cold!"

    Now's the time to kick in $25, about the price of a box of shells for your deer rifle, to build a campaign warchest for I-591 that will help stop I-594 and the gun prohibition lobby.

    POGR
    12500 N.E. Tenth Place
    Bellevue, WA 98005
    Attn: Phil Watson
    http://wagunrights.org/
     
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  18. GunnyG

    GunnyG The Highlands Active Member

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    Further thought on paragraph 4(f)(v) "
    ....while hunting if the hunting is legal in all places where the person to whom the firearm is transferred possesses the firearm and the person to whom the firearm is transferred has completed all training and holds all licenses or permits required for such hunting, provided that any temporary transfer allowed by this subsection is permitted only if the person to whom the firearm is transferred is not prohibited from possessing firearms under state or federal law; ..."

    Since game regulations require certain calibers and above for certain game, at certain times of the year, not all firearms are always exempted, even if you call it a "hunting trip".... And you still can't practice before the season starts with someone other than your spouse/domestic partner's firearm, without doing a UBC, if this proposal were to pass.

    :-/