Oregon SB 348 gutted and stuffed to rewrite Measure 114 3/34/23

[awags_86]

I sent an email to knopp asking for an explanation on what's going on.

 

[Rkangel]

Present:
Anderson
Findley
Hansell
Knopp
Brock-Smith

Pieces of excrement.

 

[nammac]

Sold out again, there is truly no hope here in Oregon…

 

[Rkangel]

Sold out again, there is truly no hope here in Oregon…

They had the perfect opportunity to be heroes, but they wadded it up and wiped their butts with it.

 

[PiratePast40]

OFF Alert
Category: OFF Alerts
Posted on June 15, 2023 by OFF
SELL OUT COMPLETE

"Today is a victory for Oregonian's parental rights and law-abiding gun owners. After months of being promised a bipartisan session, Democrats chose to prioritize a partisan and extreme agenda. Republicans held the line and were able to amend the worst parts of House Bill 2002 and the Democrats Omnibus Gun Bill, House Bill 2005. I appreciated working with Senate Republican Leader Tim Knopp throughout this process to ensure better outcomes for all Oregonians," said House Republican Leader Vikki Breese- Iverson (R-Prineville). [/center]
That was an email Breese Iverson sent out today under the heading "Click to Edit This Heading."
Apparently in a rush to claim victory for another embarrassing surrender, she forgot to replace the headline in her template.
Iverson has always been in the tank doing all she can to torpedo real conservative candidates including attacking the opponent of House Rep Charlie Conrad, who has now proven himself to be a pretty reliable supporter of the far left extremists Iverson pretends to oppose.
Based on her rush to embrace defeat, there is little reason to expect the House Republicans to take a stand and defend your rights to build or possess a personally made firearm that does not have an approved serial number. That Iverson and some Senate Republicans are calling this a victory for gun owners borders on the bizarre.
While we believe there are still a handful of Republican Senators who opposed this disgraceful and cowardly surrender, at the moment there is not a single House Republican we can imagine supporting going forward.
Categories: OFF Alerts, Uncategorized
Posted on June 15, 2023 by OFF

06.15.2023
It's about official as it can get. Senate Minority Leader Tim Knopp has made a deal with the Democrats and you are on the chopping block.
Personally made firearms will be banned under Knopp's sell out and while there is some talk of getting something on the record that it will not apply to AR style uppers, we have no reason to think they are actually going to change the language of the bill to clarify that.
But it does not matter. Americans have a long and proud history of making their own firearms and some of the best innovations in firearms technology were made by individuals in their own shops.
Courts have already declared that banning them or requiring serial numbers is unconstitutional. None of which matters to Knopp and his handful of toadies who went along with this deal.
Now some of the best pro-gun Senators will be prevented from holding office in the future and gun owners still got the shaft.
Senator Hansell is not running again so he does not care, Anderson and Brock Smith stayed on the floor to protect their own sorry backsides and Knopp knows he has no chance of winning his seat again. But they all got to vote on approving the sell out.
Once again, Republican "leadership" has snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Another disgrace for the people who got hired to protect our rights.
It's not clear exactly who will be returning to the floor or when and some Senators clearly did not approve of this "deal".
We will know more in the coming days. Your efforts have been heroic. But in the end, Knopp and his minions care a lot more about themselves than your rights.
Knopp is pretty much done with, so if you want to express your disgust feel free to contact Anderson and Brock Smith who stayed on the floor to make sure they could run again. We hope the voters in their districts recognize what disgraceful sell outs they are.

Because of changes that are being made in the bill, it still will have to go back to the House to approve those changes. This late in the session, House members can safely walk out and still kill this. We have no indication they have the courage to do so. But there is still time to contact the House Minority Leader and tell her that the House now has the chance to do the right thing and not even have to show the courage some Senators have.
Please contact Vikki Breese Iverson and tell her to walk out on the concurrence vote on HB 2005. This one should be a no brainer.

 

[CZP07]

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[Librarian]

SB348 2023 Regular Session - Oregon Legislative Information System

olis.oregonlegislature.gov

No new text as of 1652 June 15.

Why is it in the Joint Committee on Ways and Means, Subcommittee On Capital Construction?

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Does anybody know if we will have to have serialized uppers now?

 

[PiratePast40]

SB348 and 393 are to be dropped from the session. HB2005 is to be amended to take out the upper receiver serialization section but the 80% prohibition will stay in. Those changes have not been made yet. HB2002 was amended but will have to read it to see what it really says.

 

[PiratePast40]

SB348 2023 Regular Session - Oregon Legislative Information System

olis.oregonlegislature.gov

No new text as of 1652 June 15.

Why is it in the Joint Committee on Ways and Means, Subcommittee On Capital Construction?

It's a way to hide it from view. They can have hearings and work sessions without publishing the actual topics. They hid work on M114 under M110 meeting headings.

 

[raftman]

SB348 and 393 are to be dropped from the session. HB2005 is to be amended to take out the upper receiver serialization section but the 80% prohibition will stay in. Those changes have not been made yet. HB2002 was amended but will have to read it to see what it really says.

How about the mandatory waiting period after receiving an approval number for a BGC?

 

[Yarome]

I doubt it. Probably adds some meaningless stipulation like "it should require a parent's knowledge/consent unless a doctor says it shouldn't."

That's about exactly it. Parents should be informed unless determined by the doctor that it would potentially endanger the child. IOW, "my mom and dad are going to kick me out and disown me if they find out". "No worries, we don't have to tell them."

Doctors discretion.

 

[PiratePast40]

How about the mandatory waiting period after receiving an approval number for a BGC?

That was in 348 and 393. However, 2005 still talks about a permit to purchase. Won't go into effect until 1 July 2004. The only way I've been able to figure out what tales effect is to print it out and go to the last page and read sections 10 and 11.

It appears as though they are waiting to see what the courts are going to say before pursuing the permitting and mag ban schemes. At least that's my take.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Won't go into effect until 1 July 2004.

Didn't know Legislature had time traveling laws

 

[PiratePast40]

Didn't know Legislature had time traveling laws

Witchcraft most likely. Burn 'em at the stake.

 

[solv3nt]

SB348 and 393 are to be dropped from the session.

"Dropped" you say... "Dropped" like the AFT pistol brace, or "dropped" like it's hot?

 

[Rkangel]

SB348 and 393 are to be dropped from the session. HB2005 is to be amended to take out the upper receiver serialization section but the 80% prohibition will stay in. Those changes have not been made yet. HB2002 was amended but will have to read it to see what it really says.

Still bad enough. And who will be authorized to engrave 80% receivers? They have all but destroyed most gunsmiths and FFLs in this state between COVID and the lead up to 114.

 

[PiratePast40]

"Dropped" you say... "Dropped" like the AFT pistol brace, or "dropped" like it's hot?

Dropped like a San Francisco homeless bums street biscuit.

 

[solv3nt]

Dropped like a San Francisco homeless bums street biscuit.

It's only because they weren't served gravy with the biscuits.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

It's only because they weren't served gravy with the biscuits.

Saw a pizza joint the other day give free pizza to homeless guy. Their pizzas cost $34. Homeless guy walked away, opened box, set it on sidewalk and left. Crows ended up eating it.