Saw a guy today in Ballard, Freddys open carrying

[MisterD]

You guys ure do not know how to read do you?

For purposes of CONCEALED CARRY: Oregon does not recognize any other states license....and everywhere the state law mentions this it says: "is licensed under the provisions of ORS 166.291 and ORS 166.292."

For purposes of local government regulation of LOADED OPEN CARRY in ORS 166.173: There are two different exemptions.

ORS 166.173 states "(2) ...do not apply..." (c) "a person licensed to carry a concealed handgun"

and: (d) "a person authorized to possess a loaded firearm while in or on a public building or court facility under ORS 166.370.

So, what does ORS 166.370 say? Well read the exemption in 3(d): A person who is licensed under ORS 166.291 (and ORS 166.292) to carry a concealed handgun.

So, here we have two DIFFERENT expemptions to ORS 166.173. (2)(c) and 2(d). If (2)(c) ONLY applies to a license issued under ORS 166.291 and ORS 166.292 Why is exemption 166.173(2)(d) needed?

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Ok, So show us where Washington State issues licenses under the authority of ORS 166.291 or .292! They do not, you can only get a license that complies with (or is under) ORS 166.291 or .292 by applying to the State of Oregon for one.

 

[hermannr]

An out of state permit is not applicable as a "license" in Oregon per ORS 166.170. That means the exceptions DO NOT APPLY to you. I understand that you flat out disagree and therefore I welcome you to get arrested by Portland PD and fight it.

And your point is??? ORS 166.173 is Oregon State Law, passed by the legislature. Therefore, according to ORS 166.173 the local governments may only have local ordinances that are within the ORS...correct?

So, what does ORS 166.173(2)(c) say???? That is Oregon State law, not local law? What has the Oregon State Legislature told local governments in this exemption?

Now, what does the Oregon State Legislature say to local governments in 166.173(2)(d)??? is it any different that (2)(c)?????? If it is not different, why are there two seperately listed exemptions? And why does the City Of Astoria use the word "ANY" in it's ordinance.

 

[hermannr]

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Ok, So show us where Washington State issues licenses under the authority of ORS 166.291 or .292! They do not, you can only get a license that complies with (or is under) ORS 166.291 or .292 by applying to the State of Oregon for one.

I did not say WA (or any other state) issued licenses under 291 or 292...no did I? No, I said...For the purposes of local restrictions on LOADED OC, by LOCAL government bodies, there are TWO DIFFERENT exemptions in ORS 166.173.

One is ORS 166.172(2)(C) It is an exemption to anyone that has a permit to carry a concealed handgun. It has NO mention of a license issued under ORS 166.291, or ORS 166.292.

There is a second exemption...ORS 166.173(2)(d)...that is specifically linked to ORS 166.291 and ORS 166.292. These are not the same exemptions.

The exemption in ORS 166.173(2)(c) does NOT allow for LOADED OPEN CARRY into a publicly owned building or court per ORS 166.370.

The exemption in ORS 166.173(2)(d) specificall does allow for such carry, and only by those who have been licensed under ORS 166.291 and ORS 166.292.

So, now you tell me: Why are there two exemptions if (2)(c) only applies to people licensed under ORS 166.291 and ORS 166.292? Oh yes, and why does (2)(d) specifically cite 291 and 292, but (2)(c) does NOT?????

 

[Norm0931]

I did not say WA (or any other state) issued licenses under 291 or 292...no did I? No, I said...For the purposes of local restrictions on LOADED OC, by LOCAL government bodies, there are TWO DIFFERENT exemptions in ORS 166.173.

One is ORS 166.172(2)(C) It is an exemption to anyone that has a permit to carry a concealed handgun. It has NO mention of a license issued under ORS 166.291, or ORS 166.292.

There is a second exemption...ORS 166.173(2)(d)...that is specifically linked to ORS 166.291 and ORS 166.292. These are not the same exemptions.

The exemption in ORS 166.173(2)(c) does NOT allow for LOADED OPEN CARRY into a publicly owned building or court per ORS 166.370.

The exemption in ORS 166.173(2)(d) specificall does allow for such carry, and only by those who have been licensed under ORS 166.291 and ORS 166.292.

So, now you tell me: Why are there two exemptions if (2)(c) only applies to people licensed under ORS 166.291 and ORS 166.292? Oh yes, and why does (2)(d) specifically cite 291 and 292, but (2)(c) does NOT?????

Like I said man, you can believe anything you want. I disagree and I'm willing to be that the Oregon court system will as well. Go get yourself arrested for Open Carrying in Portland with a Washington or Utah license and keep us updated on your trial.