S&W Just Dropped a Red Dot Equipped 2.0 Shield

[Kruel J]

What self defense situation would you need a light? A light is certainly good if your going through a building like a cop would do sweeping the area...but self defense??? If there is a threat right in front of you I'm pretty sure your going to know it whether you have a light or not. If you need a flashlight to identify your target your probably not in a self defense situation and can get yourself out of it. The only situation I can think of is if you hear a noise in your home and you go to investigate, but that's not self defense. That's you investigating making sure your not getting robbed and protecting your property.

Ensuring what's at the end of your muzzle.

 

[Fishonshawn]

Ensuring what's at the end of your muzzle.

If you felt the need to pull your gun you should have already identified there is a threat...or do you just walk around pointing your gun at bubblegum?

 

[Kruel J]

If you felt the need to pull your gun you should have already identified there is a threat...or do you just walk around pointing your gun at bubblegum?

That's exactly what I do.

All SD situations happen in broad daylight huh?

 

[Fishonshawn]

That's exactly what I do.

All SD situations happen in broad daylight huh?

It's a serious question though. To say tritium sights have zero purpose for self defense I think is a foolish thing to say. Think self defense...someone is attacking you or is a direct threat that you cant escape. If you have time to look around with a flashlight to identify your target that's not self defense. I'm not saying flashlights dont have a purpose. Like I said cops or any kind of law enforcement sweeping a dark building would absolutely benefit from it being able to identify a threat quickly. But in a self defense situation that threat has already made itself known to you. And tritium sights will just help make sure your on target.

 

[Fishonshawn]

That's exactly what I do.

All SD situations happen in broad daylight huh?

If someone's attacking you at night you think they are invisible just because its dark?

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

a light with a strobe is very disorienting in the dark. it could mean having an advantage over an attacker. if anything, id rather have a light than night sights. i feel night sights are ONLY good for identifying your weapon on your night stand when its pitch black and now you hear a noise in your house.

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

back to the OP, i have carried a shield for many years, i think a red dot on one would not be helpful. IMO.

 

[Kruel J]

Again, I'm out! Do whatever you guys want. LOVE an optic on a EDC? It's all good.

It's a serious question though. To say tritium sights have zero purpose for self defense I think is a foolish thing to say. Think self defense...someone is attacking you or is a direct threat that you cant escape. If you have time to look around with a flashlight to identify your target that's not self defense. I'm not saying flashlights dont have a purpose. Like I said cops or any kind of law enforcement sweeping a dark building would absolutely benefit from it being able to identify a threat quickly. But in a self defense situation that threat has already made itself known to you. And tritium sights will just help make sure your on target.

Tritium sights are visible in an ALMOST pitch black environment. I've practiced shooting with lights and without in complete darkness. My point is, at least for ME, that if I can see the vials glowing I can't see much of anything else. If I use a light, either weapon mounted or handheld the sights are completely dark outlines. I run night sights on ALL my SD pistols BTW. More to find the gun on the nightstand than anything else.

If you haven't had a chance to shoot pistols in a zero light environment I would suggest you try it.

 

[Member 5605]

a light with a strobe is very disorienting in the dark. it could mean having an advantage over an attacker. if anything, id rather have a light than night sights. i feel night sights are ONLY good for identifying your weapon on your night stand when its pitch black and now you hear a noise in your house.

Speaking of...

I really need to find a good light for my XD's

 

[nammac]

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[Fishonshawn]

a light with a strobe is very disorienting in the dark. it could mean having an advantage over an attacker. if anything, id rather have a light than night sights. i feel night sights are ONLY good for identifying your weapon on your night stand when its pitch black and now you hear a noise in your house.

That's actually a good point but if I feel the need to pull a gun on someone its beyond the point of trying to disorientate...

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

Speaking of...

I really need to find a good light for my XD's

i have a tlr3 and tlr4 with laser. i got them for free so i cant complain. cant find holsters for them so they stay on my night stand gun(s). the tlr1 seems to be fairly common to find a pre-fit holster for it.

 

[Kruel J]

Speaking of...

I really need to find a good light for my XD's

X300 Ultra. I have 3 of them and they are really nice lights!

 

[DB is Here]

i have a tlr3 and tlr4 with laser. i got them for free so i cant complain. cant find holsters for them so they stay on my night stand gun(s). the tlr1 seems to be fairly common to find a pre-fit holster for it.

I'll bet Orygun Holster could hook you up.

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

That's actually a good point but if I feel the need to pull a gun on someone its beyond the point of trying to disorientate...

sure, i just wanna see my 'target' whats beyond my 'target' if i decide do shoot. what if one of my kids snuck out of his room and is hiding in the corner behind the invader? that would be a mistake i could never make right.

 

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and here I havent even posted yet,
a shield with a RMR for carry... meh
if your gun doesnt have every doodad available today its basically worthless... thats where society is head with gun collections and count me out. KISS

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

I'll bet Orygun Holster could hook you up.

oh yeah for sure. ryans a good dude.

 

[DB is Here]

oh yeah for sure. ryans a good dude.

I've got 4 or 5 of his, all work flawlessly.

 

[Kruel J]

Yeah not sure why. People cant have a discussion? I guess if your a staff member and someone disagrees with you you just shut the thread down.

I'm not shutting anything down. I welcome the discussion and can take the heat.

 

[Kruel J]

I've got 4 or 5 of his, all work flawlessly.

I've got at least a dozen, including the one I posted on page 2 I think.