Russia attacks Ukraine! WW3 imminent?

[Bam]

yea, our capabilities are that good. have been for a long time. its a nonissue.

I'd love whatever you are smoking.

There is no such thing as 100% defense. If russia launched a full scale attack, we would get hit. No, we are not that good or capable to shoot down every incoming nuke.

Sure, Russia's nuclear stock pile is rusty, but out of hundreds there are more than enough to get the job done.

 

[The Heretic]

Anti-nuke drones in orbit?

Is that like the Jewish Space Lasers?

 

[The Heretic]

U.S. Plans To Sell Ukraine Armed MQ-1C Gray Eagle Drones: Report

MQ-1C gives Ukraine a major leap in capability over its TB-2 drones for missions like electronic warfare support, strike, and surveillance.

www.thedrive.com

 

[The Heretic]

I'd love whatever you are smoking.

There is no such thing as 100% defense. If russia launched a full scale attack, we would get hit. No, we are not that good or capable to shoot down every incoming nuke.

Sure, Russia's nuclear stock pile is rusty, but out of hundreds there are more than enough to get the job done.

If just a few got thru, it would cause a lot of havoc. That is what MAD is all about.

 

[arakboss]

Russian guardsman killed in battle with foreigners fighting in Ukraine, including British MP's son

A volunteer unit led by former Royal Marine Ben Grant, the son of a member of British Parliament, destroyed a Russian armored personnel carrier in Ukraine last week.

www.foxnews.com

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Interesting video of Russian soldier flipping off a drone and then receiving several bombs for his trouble. Position of vehicle is slightly different when bombs hit so bombing probably happened some point after he flipped them off such as later in the day or next day etc. so the claim of "instantly" is incorrect. Still pretty funny though.

 

[made in china]

Uh oh folks, the Ukrainian military ain't playing around no mo!

Ukraine's 'unicorn' LGBTQ soldiers head for war

As volunteer fighters Oleksandr Zhuhan and Antonina Romanova pack for a return to active duty, they contemplate the unicorn insignia that gives their uniform a rare distinction - a symbol of their status as an LGBTQ couple who are Ukrainian soldiers.

www.reuters.com

 

[The B]

I like your positive attitude but how do you know this?

lots of reading on the topic, i guess.. google "us strategic missile defense" and dig in. we have at least three layers of nuclear missile defense - boost phase, orbital phase, and last resort atmospheric warhead defense. our orbital drones can even tell the difference between russia's ancient tech "decoy" warheads and the actual warheads deployed in the orbital phase and only target the actual warheads.

again... we havent spent all of this money nor wasted all of these decades to not have airtight strategic defense, all while the russians all but ceased strategic spending.

 

[CountryGent]

Putin fires five more generals: report. Being Russian brass sounds like a delight; either canned by a thug or sent to Ukraine to be plugged.

 

[made in china]

The unpalatable truth in Ukraine

Whatever the shortcomings displayed by Russian forces in the opening phase of the war, recent battlefield developments suggest that they have found their footing .

thehill.com

 

[arakboss]

The unpalatable truth in Ukraine

Whatever the shortcomings displayed by Russian forces in the opening phase of the war, recent battlefield developments suggest that they have found their footing .

thehill.com

20% of Ukraine is under Russian control, President Zelensky says

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said that Russia controls 20% of his country, and the Donbas region is "almost entirely destroyed." Follow news updates here.

www.cnn.com

 

[albin25]

I'm wondering if (when?) Ukraine collapses...
.... how many US weapons/pallets of cash, are going to be left behind for the Taliputin?

 

[Ura-Ki]

I'm wondering if (when?) Ukraine collapses...
.... how many US weapons/pallets of cash, are going to be left behind for the Taliputin?

Ukrainian Farmers!

 

[The Heretic]

I'm wondering if (when?) Ukraine collapses...
.... how many US weapons/pallets of cash, are going to be left behind for the Taliputin?

I doubt the cash. Weapons maybe, but Ukraine is using them up faster than we ship them in.

 

[made in china]

I think Putin was "smart" to not call this "special operations" a "war".
I don't think he ever stated a goal of totally conquering Ukraine, no matter what the pundits assumed.

It seems he's taken enough to claim actual "success" for the stated goals.

And, all the while, we wasted our resources "helping" Ukraine do what? You'd have to be relying on assumptions to believe we prevented what we assume he wanted, when in objective reality our help didn't prevent any of the stated goals from occurring.

He literally did kick Nazi butt (Azov regiment) and gained land that's likely never being returned.

 

[monkeybutler]

Huh I wonder why they attacked Kiev then?

 

[The Heretic]

Why Russia’s Su-34 Fighter-Bomber Is Failing in Ukraine

The Su-34 is fairly modern, and the Russians bought them in bunches beginning in 2008. But in Ukraine, they have not performed well.

www.19fortyfive.com

 

[The Heretic]

And, all the while, we wasted our resources "helping" Ukraine do what? You'd have to be relying on assumptions to believe we prevented what we assume he wanted, when in objective reality our help didn't prevent any of the stated goals from occurring.

He literally did kick Nazi butt (Azov regiment) and gained land that's likely never being returned.

I don't think we wasted our resources. Look at what is going to come out of this:

1) Europe is now well aware that Russia is a threat - not an ally - and they seem to be taking measures to not rely on Russia for energy/etc. - so are many people in the USA who wanted Russia to be an ally, or at least someone we could do business with.

2) Finland and Sweden are applying for NATO membership and will most likely get it.

3) Russia has been severely weakened, both militarily and financially. Putin has been weakened, and may even be replaced or disappeared.

4) The world is now aware that that Russia is nowhere near as strong as it pretended to be.

All this will be true whether Russia accomplishes its goals or not.

 

[made in china]

I don't think we wasted our resources. Look at what is going to come out of this:

1) Europe is now well aware that Russia is a threat - not an ally - and they seem to be taking measures to not rely on Russia for energy/etc. - so are many people in the USA who wanted Russia to be an ally, or at least someone we could do business with.

2) Finland and Sweden are applying for NATO membership and will most likely get it.

3) Russia has been severely weakened, both militarily and financially. Putin has been weakened, and may even be replaced or disappeared.

4) The world is now aware that that Russia is nowhere near as strong as it pretended to be.

All this will be true whether Russia accomplishes its goals or not.

I don't think more countries being NATO-aligned is a good thing, especially as a US citizen.

The US considers NATO as an ally, as a second set of eyes for liberal democracy, but the last thing I want is NATO spreading. I see it as a functional, well implemented form of globalism.

It's also ineffective against truly nefarious states.
Just allows consolidation of power...

 

[The Heretic]

I don't think more countries being NATO-aligned is a good thing, especially as a US citizen.

The US considers NATO as an ally, as a second set of eyes for liberal democracy, but the last thing I want is NATO spreading. I see it as a functional, well implemented form of globalism.

It's also ineffective against truly nefarious states.
Just allows consolidation of power...

As long as we are part of NATO and as long as Russia is a threat, a more unified NATO is a good thing. Having the countries on Russia's border be NATO aligned is a good thing too - it means Russia will think twice before attacking NATO aligned countries.

In short - Si vis pacem, para bellum