Retention Holster Probably Saved Officer's Life

Flopsweat · Jun 8, 2023

American123 said:
Looks like an obvious "complacency can kill scenario" and the most obvious example of weak side easily drawn fixed blade knife so that when the officer was maintaining control of the pistol with his right hand he could have been stabbing and slashing the perp continuously with the left.

Some folks were advocating for that really pointedly in another thread. What put this guy in danger from the get go though was complacency. Being that close to the perp did nothing for him and only put him at a disadvantage to react. (Which is what happened).

I also see the issue where most police / perp interactions are ones of compliance, and when they encounter someone who is physically strong, athletic, and non compliant, the ability to get control of that person without shooting them is questionable at best.

Absolutely. Everyone should have a weak side weapon of some kind on them when they're carrying. If the perp had been punching him instead of grabbing the gun, he'd be hospitalized or dead right now.

American123 · Jun 8, 2023

Flopsweat said:
Absolutely. Everyone should have a weak side weapon of some kind on them when they're carrying. If the perp had been punching him instead of grabbing the gun, he'd be hospitalized or dead right now.

Gets sticky in Seattle. Fixed blade knives are verboten, but here's a funny catch. You could wear a folder, locked open and sheathed… so what's the point (besides idiots write laws)

Flopsweat · Jun 8, 2023

American123 said:
Gets sticky in Seattle. Fixed blade knives are verboten, but here's a funny catch. You could wear a folder, locked open and sheathed… so what's the point (besides idiots write laws)

I hadn't even thought of that! I have a few folders that work well one-handed.

nammac · Jun 9, 2023

Flopsweat said:
I hadn't even thought of that! I have a few folders that work well one-handed.

Hadn't thought of this either, now to find an appropriate sheath…

Member 53328 · Jun 9, 2023

American123 said:
Looks like an obvious "complacency can kill scenario" and the most obvious example of weak side easily drawn fixed blade knife so that when the officer was maintaining control of the pistol with his right hand he could have been stabbing and slashing the perp continuously with the left.

Some folks were advocating for that really pointedly in another thread. What put this guy in danger from the get go though was complacency. Being that close to the perp did nothing for him and only put him at a disadvantage to react. (Which is what happened).

I also see the issue where most police / perp interactions are ones of compliance, and when they encounter someone who is physically strong, athletic, and non compliant, the ability to get control of that person without shooting them is questionable at best.

Members here say there is no purpose in carrying a blade on your weak side. It's just too much to carry….. and if you do you're just paranoid.

This cop could have jammed a blade in the perps neck/ribs/inside thigh and I promise you the dude would have let go. It would have been 100% justified.