Washington Re-manufactured Ammunition

[uberguy]

I put up an ad selling shotgun slugs and 00 Buck. I was told by a moderator this was 'extremely illegal' unless I have a class 6 FFL. Can someone help me understand why, and if there are any workarounds? I can make them glow in the dark, which is something stores do not have. Can they be sold partially intact, like filled with its contents, but have the buyer roll crimp the rounds? Any advise would be most welcomed.
Thanks
Ryan

I would suggest you consider partnering with someone / a business who IS a Class 6 FFL, licensed to manufacture ammunition. I had known a guy who founded https://sagesreloadingsupply.com/ haven't been in touch for several years now but that's something to consider. His operation was in Renton, WA.

 

[The Heretic]

FWIW - if you do decide to go into manufacturing ammo, I suggest that you start with virgin components and do not call it reloading. If the shotgun "hulls" are virgin, then it isn't reloading and some people, like me, will not buy reloaded ammo. I will reload my own ammo, but I won't buy reloaded ammo as I have no idea how many times the cartridge case has been reloaded or what the previous loads were.

I had a commercially reloaded (by a well known reloading corporation) 9x19 cartridge let go at the web of the case and slightly injure my son in law while we were shooting. Since my daughter was also shooting at the same range with the same ammo, it could just as easily been her.

Never again.

 

[RyanChamberlin]

I would suggest you consider partnering with someone / a business who IS a Class 6 FFL, licensed to manufacture ammunition. I had known a guy who founded https://sagesreloadingsupply.com/ haven't been in touch for several years now but that's something to consider. His operation was in Renton, WA.

Thank you so much!!!

 

[RyanChamberlin]

How long are the finished shells?

...And what part of the shell glows in the dark
What"s the weight of the slug?
FPS of slug and 00?

The slug or the 00 buck shot glows, these are new hulls. 1/1/8 oz load moving about 1000 ft/sec. I have to use my crony when it gets warmer

 

[RyanChamberlin]

It's funny how some believe it's legal to sell personal reloads as components in the reloading section but it is illegal to sell those same reloads in the ammo classified section. Either it's legal or it's not. I believe it's legal unless you are doing it as a business to support your livelihood in which case you should get a license.

So I can list them as components under the reloading section. I have 16 boxes, which is too many for me. I am not making any after this unless something changes. So ya, they are mine and were over-production

 

[RyanChamberlin]

Keep in mind that many manufacturers of perfectly good products get sued anyway if their product was anywhere near an accident. Even a successful defense before trial takes a lot of money which ideally comes from an insurer.

I'm sorry you had that experience. I use new hulls and all components are new. Each is powdered by an automatic powder dispenser (which is much slower than you would think if you were ever looking to buy). Anyway, all new components and exact powder charges.

 

[arakboss]

So I can list them as components under the reloading section. I have 16 boxes, which is too many for me. I am not making any after this unless something changes. So ya, they are mine and were over-production

Yep. I would add a disclaimer that the buyer should use them as components only to appease the safety sams and sallys out there.

 

[RyanChamberlin]

FWIW - if you do decide to go into manufacturing ammo, I suggest that you start with virgin components and do not call it reloading. If the shotgun "hulls" are virgin, then it isn't reloading and some people, like me, will not buy reloaded ammo. I will reload my own ammo, but I won't buy reloaded ammo as I have no idea how many times the cartridge case has been reloaded or what the previous loads were.

I had a commercially reloaded (by a well known reloading corporation) 9x19 cartridge let go at the web of the case and slightly injure my son in law while we were shooting. Since my daughter was also shooting at the same range with the same ammo, it could just as easily been her.

Never again.

I have heard so many horror stories like that! Ugh. These are new hulls, all new components powdered by an automatic powder dispenser so each round has the exact same charge. I made 16 boxes for me, too many, will probably not be making any more unless something changes.

 

[RyanChamberlin]

Thank you so much!!!

Their website is down, but I will keep trying. Thanks again!
Ryan