Police officer shot dead after pointing stun gun at man's dogs

[Kevatc]

Dogs are property and human life is greater then property.

Really? OK, try and harm my property and I will harm you. Badly.

 

[soberups]

I strongly disagree with you. My dog is part of my family. I would defend her just like I would defend my wife or the rest of my family. Animals are living beings too, most humans are just too ignorant to respect that.

My dogs are part of my family also. They are living beings that I love deeply.

But they are not human beings, they are dogs. If you wish to place them on an equal footing with humans, then are you willing to extend that belief to cattle, or deer, or any other animals?

 

[chariot13]

My dogs are part of my family also. They are living beings that I love deeply.

But they are not human beings, they are dogs. If you wish to place them on an equal footing with humans, then are you willing to extend that belief to cattle, or deer, or any other animals?

Soberups; Go to a ranchers ranch with a 1000 head of cattle and start shooting everyone of them if you can.... you'd be shot dead & rightfully so. Happiness can extend further than the dollars a livestock brings, & some people consider the happiness a pet brings no less important.

Pursuit of happiness is what we all seek. Life is equal to livelyhood & we all live for happiness. That pertains to the man that lost his life doing his livelyhood (officer) as much as the man (defendant) that wanted to live a life in peace without interference from him.

 

[Scott]

If my dogs act like Cujo on my property I am perfectly content with that as nobody has a right to be on my property period unless I allow you to be there.

If they chew the crap out of you it is your fault as you were tresspassing. Just be glad we are not in Texas were you can get shot for tresspassing as we all know that old man shot those 2 illegals stealing from his neighbor and then in his yard.

Becareful of who's land you are on.

 

[Buddhalux]

It is sad that this situation escalated to this level. However, LEO's need to understand that some people just aren't going to take it when they feel threatened as well. I really don't like the double standard about K-9 units. I'm sorry, but I would emascalate a police dog that came after me. Why you may ask? Because I have a god given right to defend myself from attack, mauling, and or death. To **** with what legalities are involved. So the k-9 units are sworn plice officer. When did they raise their right paw? What was their oath? I think a few of you may see my point.

 

[Scott]

Really? OK, try and harm my property and I will harm you. Badly.

I will protect my property as well and at all costs. I did not work all those years for what I have for someone to come and take when they feel like it.

Want something go buy it but try to take mine and you will be hurt....

I run my property as a military installation and like area 51............

 

[wou42]

I cannot believe how ignorant some people on here are. A man, who was doing his job and what was required of him, was killed because he was going to taze/shoot dogs that wouldn't back down. He was not tresspassing and had EVERY legal right and an obligation to be there. Any "man" on here who would kill a cop, especially a cop who HAD to be there, over their dogs that won't back down are morons. Period.

 

[mjbskwim]

Well first off,if some nut ease comes on my property and points a gun at my dogs,he going down. My dog's lives are worth more than some random *** hat that is trespassing .I may be next in his sights,so he done.

And Puma,I'm sorry for you that you haven't ever had a dog as a companion,but your view on dogs is the norm.
Many people don't have others and their dogs are more important than people,so it isn't ludicrous at all if that's all they have

But,y'all are looking at it as this was a normal person shooting an officer trying to do his job.
This was an officer coming to a house with a know trouble maker,who the neighbors feared,and had many priors.
So the dogs were probably not very good dogs anyway,would never been able to be adopted and probably needed a bullet,not a taser.

I am a dog lover,but if the dog has been treated wrong and is mean,some times it's best to just finish it.Like salmonriverjohn did.And my neighbor had to do. Dog's or kids? Dogs lose every time.
Adults? Maybe,maybe not

Unfortunately the officer didn't have his gun out to shoot the dogs before the jackass owner shot him.Maybe he would have had time to redirect
Oh,and apparently the cop liked dogs or he would have had his gun instead of the taser.
Ludicrous

 

[chariot13]

He was on the property of a private property owner that had the legal right to reside there in its full intentions. No less than any person that ever stepped foot upon that property that made a claim just as he had to do. A property owner reserves the right to retain the resources of which they have on their property. Which in this case he chose to have dogs that provided him with happiness & companionship. The officer wouldn't back down & the dogs were just doing their job for the home owner. To say that the OFFICER was doing the job of the home owner is bull. He didn't want him there. Therefore choosing socialism (society) & communism (community) over individual liberty, private industry & private property (capitalism) if we say its ok.

Remember those two words society & community (socialism & communism under disguise) because they are both embedded into our thinking of being somehow alright even though they are in fact what we liberate our enemies & closest friends from.

 

[Buddhalux]

He was on the property of a private property owner that had the legal right to reside there in its full intentions. No less than any person that ever stepped foot upon that property. A property owner reserves the right to retain the resources of which they have on their property. Which in this case he chose to have dogs that provided him with happiness & companionship. The officer wouldn't back down & the dogs were just doing their job to the home owner. To say that the officer was doing the job of the home owner is bull. He didn't want him there. Therefore you choose socialism (society) & communism (community) over individual liberty, private industry & private property. Remember those two words society & community (socialism & communism under disguise) because they are both embedded into your thinking of being somehow right even though they are in fact what we liberate our enemies & closest friends from.

That may be true. However an LEO has PC to enter a property and/or domicile when responding to a DV call. What I don't agree with is when LEO's decide to kill a pet. Maybe they should give the owners a chance to get the animal under control and/or secure them. Maybe they did give the owner a chance and the article doesn't reflect that. If any of us destroyed someone else's property we'd be charged. Same should ring true for LEO's when they make bad calls.

 

[mjbskwim]

If you are even remotely serious in asking if the homeowner was justified in shooting the police officer,you are truly bubblegumed up in the head.I hope you keep yourself sane,cause I don't see good things in your future if the cops have to respond to your address.

OK, I read and re-read the original article. It says:


OK, so the officer "had pointed a stun gun" "BEFORE" being shot. (I suppose it could have been well before...)


OK, so the shooter is claiming that the officer had a gun in his face, and pointed at the dog. Did the shooter mistake a stun gun for a real gun? Or did the officer point a gun at the shooter?


OK so the shooter had already requested the officer to leave his private property.



So the police chief said "shoot the dogs" -- not "zap the dogs" or "tase the dogs" -- perhaps giving more evidence that the officer had a real gun and not a taser???

So IF this is true (officer asked to leave, officer points gun at homeowner and dog, police chief says "shoot the dog") -- then MAYBE it was justified for the homeowner to shoot the officer? The main reason would be: Homeowner feared for his own life because officer did not leave when asked and pointed a gun at the homeowner. NOT because the dog was threatened.

 

[chariot13]

If you are even remotely serious in asking if the homeowner was justified in shooting the police officer,you are truly bubblegumed up in the head.I hope you keep yourself sane,cause I don't see good things in your future if the cops have to respond to your address.

If shooting someone in Authority is always wrong then Syria's Government has it right.

 

[deadeye]

The plain fact is if you shoot a person for damaging your pet/property you will soon find that the courts dont hold the same opinion about pets and property as some do here. So go ahead and defend the pets/property but dont be surprised when you lose everything defending your ideals and become a ward of the state for a while.

 

[The B]

i stopped skimming about half way through.. but here's my take on the matter:

human life is more sacred than dog life. HOWEVER- if somebody opened/was about to open fire at your garbage can in your front yard, what would you do? what if it was your lawn mower? what if it was just your lawn? you're gonna shoot that bubblegumer- he's lost his damn mind.

how much MORE so if he's trying to shoot your dogs? accuse me of cop-hating (i admit it anyway), but this goes for cops OR real people. don't come onto my property shooting things.. you probably gonna get shot.

 

[chariot13]

I somewhat agree but i gotta add that the Officer defended an ideal & lost everything no less than what could be said for the homeowner. The homeowner actually was defending something living besides his own life & along with it, at least it sounds like it from the story. The homeowner had no pre emption of going after anyone, he was at home & the trouble came to him. They should look at who called the police in the first place, i think there's alot more to this story than is shown.

 

[mjbskwim]

That's true deadeye,so you would have to believe that the person was going to shoot you also.

OK this is speculation,but I'm guessing if the Chief/Captain said to shoot the dogs,maybe they had been a problem the last time they had to arrest this guy

chariot13,spin it however you want under your little tin hat,but this guy wasn't stable,probably wasn't even supposed to have the gun in the first place.
So you are defending a know criminal who is now a cop killer.Great,and I thought I had seen it all on this site.

Do you and pchewn live in the same complex?

The chief caused this problem.He sent one guy to a domestic 'disturbance' and then told him to shoot a unstable owner's dogs. (the article states that the neighborhood feared the guy)

The poor officer should have called BS and waited

The guy shot the cop to shoot the cop....nothing more
He could have defused the situation easier than the cops could have.He was going to kill someone that night.Or he was trying to commit suicide by cop
I would guess the dogs were just dogs to the guy and an excuse to kill the cop

Yes I understand all the thoughts about zee gestapo coming on your property without a warrant,but that isn't even remotely the case here.
Some are asking 'was the dogs the disturbance?' 'What business did the cop have going on his property?'

This man had the balls to shotgun a cop,no matter where he was.He shot a cop.Most bad guys know better that to shoot cops,most
It seems pretty obvious to me that the police were needed in this household that night.

But y'all will read into it what you want,just like I did

 

[chariot13]

The news & the public relations from the police department would of gladly mentioned that he was a felon in posession if that was the case, it was not. To place someone somewhere such as the cheif did to his deputy is where the negligence lays. No different than placing a child in front of a dangerous situation that didn't have to be dangerous unless you place them there.

 

[titsonritz]

In my not so humble opinion, both sides of the coin clearly demonstrate the disgusting decay our society has come to. Sad, just sad all the way around.

 

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[chariot13]

Instead of alcohol tobacco & firearms he had Pot, guns & tree branches? Wow thats like 80% of West Coast inhabitants.

Minus the pot I'm one of them. I can't go out in my yard without worrying about a widowmaker falling on me.