Plan how you carry depending on that day's activities. Don't be stupid like me.

[Caveman Jim]

At 59, function trumps style for me any day. I wear shirts untucked over my holster, and usually a pullover sweatshirt over that. Sometimes a 380 in a pocket holster in my back pocket as well. Goodwill is my custom tailor, and every shirt I buy is based upon how well it conceals my full frame Smith. But really, I don't give a rats azz if they make me or not. I too subscribe to the mind your own fing business, but be assured I would be the first to step between you and trouble.

We were in a eating place the other day and looking around I knew there were at least 6 CCW in the place. Pretty safe place to be.

I did a video recording today for a very liberal group of people today who would have just sh*t if they knew this videographer had a full size S & W .40, with a spare mag under my nice dress pull over, and a pepper spray container in my front pocket.

I CC at all my acupuncture appointments since all that is exposed is my lower legs and arms, they are in Olympia so screw em. I'm gonna be prepared for anything!!!

 

[mtm68]

I told my wife we were getting CPLs but it was on her, I couldn't do it for her. We've been in a couple situation's were she asked me if we were good... and was happy to find out we were. She is on her way to get her cpl on her next day off. I was worried about killary, she worries about the don. It works for us. (As long as she misses the what did you buy Lately thread) lol. #arwhatsthatsweetie #ineedonemore

 

[Caveman Jim]

I agree that this is how it SHOULD be, but in Washington;

Police ticket man who wore gun in store.Visible handgun alarmed someone, police say

What utter BS, that cop misinterpreted the law. He is in direct violation of that man's civil rights and needs reprimanded!!!

 

[Lilhigbee]

No I don't agree with it, and Jim you are right about civil rights, but here is the law;



RCW 9.41.270
Weapons apparently capable of producing bodily harm—Unlawful carrying or handling—Penalty—Exceptions.
(1) It shall be unlawful for any person to carry, exhibit, display, or draw any firearm, dagger, sword, knife or other cutting or stabbing instrument, club, or any other weapon apparently capable of producing bodily harm, in a manner, under circumstances, and at a time and place that either manifests an intent to intimidate another or that warrants alarm for the safety of other persons.
(2) Any person violating the provisions of subsection (1) above shall be guilty of a gross misdemeanor. If any person is convicted of a violation of subsection (1) of this section, the person shall lose his or her concealed pistol license, if any. The court shall send notice of the revocation to the department of licensing, and the city, town, or county which issued the license.
(3) Subsection (1) of this section shall not apply to or affect the following:
(a) Any act committed by a person while in his or her place of abode or fixed place of business;
(b) Any person who by virtue of his or her office or public employment is vested by law with a duty to preserve public safety, maintain public order, or to make arrests for offenses, while in the performance of such duty;
(c) Any person acting for the purpose of protecting himself or herself against the use of presently threatened unlawful force by another, or for the purpose of protecting another against the use of such unlawful force by a third person;
(d) Any person making or assisting in making a lawful arrest for the commission of a felony; or
(e) Any person engaged in military activities sponsored by the federal or state governments.

 

[Caveman Jim]

So a Wa CPL holder is not allowed to open carry? What utter BS!!!

 

[Koda]

So a Wa CPL holder is not allowed to open carry? What utter BS!!!

thats what Im trying to figure out. I think there is a member here on this forum who is a big open carry advocate in Wa. but cant remember.

if its not legal then what does that mean for printing and slight exposure (shirt hikes up when lifting...)?

 

[P7M13]

If subsection (1) applies because you print, that's 'effin' retarded and gives carte blanche to the WA PC enforcers. I have a problem with that. I wish people would mind their own friggin' business. [edit] Montana is looking better all the time....

To the OP: sorry dude, ex wife #1 was strongly anti-gun. Years later, when the defendant in a suit she was counsel started threatening her, she asks me about pistols and self defense. Current wife (soon to be ex #2) is lukewarm about guns, and the other day says to me, "you have always been open, honest and uncompromising in your stance on guns and hunting - I have to say I do admire that in you since I do not know that many men who would be." Coming from a strong-willed, uncompromising woman like her, I take that as a compliment.
@scott_see, may I recommend for your next go-round that you be forward about firearms and teach your potential partners in the use and care of them. I did for every woman I dated after ex#1, and from experience I can say it ignites the filth between the ears that @Stomper dreams about.

 

[mkwerx]

Yeah - guessing your wife, OP, has more issues than just freaking out about you carrying a gun. Divorces are expensive - because they're worth it. My first wife was fine & dandy with guns - but she was nuttier than a squirrel turd and wanted to play with every swinging dangle in the tri-county area even after we were married. I put up with that crap far, far too long.

I'm on #2 and we've been together 10 and a half years, will celebrate our 10th wedding anniversary this year. We knew each other as kids, but hadn't talked in years after high school. When we began dating, I made sure to let her know early on that I owned guns, and carried a gun everywhere I went. I think our fourth or fifth date we went shooting.

While I'm not saying you're for sure on the path to divorce, I get that feeling - I hope if it happens it isn't too messy for you, and you get over it fairly quick. I know it took a long time before I actually trusted anyone - including the woman I'm married to now, after getting screwed over by my ex. Plenty of us on here to vent to, if necessary - and there's plenty of fish in the sea (even a dating website by that name, if you're looking for something more than you can find on Ashley Madison) and you can find a more compatible lady.

That said - I'd suggest an appendix carry rig, or at least an inside the waistband holster. I'd also go with the M&P Shield or Glock 43 over the XDs, but to each his own. XD's aren't bad guns.

One may wonder though - if your wife didn't know you carried, did she even know you owned a gun? That's pretty damn amazing you could keep it from her for months, let alone years. You should farm yourself out to the DNC as a security specialist, because they can't seem to keep secrets nearly as well, and could use some tips

Good luck.

 

[Goosebrown]

PC mentality from Seattle is much worse than the Portlandia PC-tardation.
Your problem is you are in Marysville. If you were in a town named something like Cocksure, there probably wouldn't be any problem.

I'm grateful for the many replies. Since I just started concealed carrying, I was concerned about the etiquette of printing or accidental flashing. I can work with MYOFB and IDGAF. When I've been in places where open carry was allowed, I did so without even thinking.

As long as it isn't a town named cock?sure!

 

[wired]

RCW 9.41.270 . "warrants alarm for the safety of other persons" would be a high bar to overcome in front of a judge. Sure, you might get a ticket from a nervous cop covering his @ss at the scene but it would almost immediately get thrown out in court if you are a CHL permit holder as long as you werent brandishing or telling someone you were going to pull out your gun and shoot them. Of course i could be wrong (I'm not) and case law will prove that. In the absence of case law ( someone getting a ticket doesnt count ) I think you guys read way too much into this stuff.

 

[No_Regerts]

RCW 9.41.270 . "warrants alarm for the safety of other persons" would be a high bar to overcome in front of a judge. Sure, you might get a ticket from a nervous cop covering his @ss at the scene but it would almost immediately get thrown out in court if you are a CHL permit holder as long as you werent brandishing or telling someone you were going to pull out your gun and shoot them. Of course i could be wrong (I'm not) and case law will prove that. In the absence of case law ( someone getting a ticket doesnt count ) I think you guys read way too much into this stuff.

Right. If it twer me, I'd explain that a holstered firearm is no need for alarm and the person has the right to carry it in that manner. Thanks and have a nice day.

Then I'd probably invite the guy with the gun to the month's IDPA match.

 

[MrMillspecer]

I usually just take my shotgun the Christmas tree farm it's almost as dangerous as my yoga class where I do print a bit through my pants. OK in kidding. You can never be too safe. Ya longer jacket. Been there.

 

[scott_see]

A tuckable holster with an undershirt tucked in over it is a option.
Not a perfect one, but it's what I do if I'm worried my cover shirt may ride up.

I never thought of that. Great idea. I've tucked my outer shirt, but then that leaves the clips exposed. Tucking in the undershirt, I like that.

 

[scott_see]

Huh, I'm third gen OR and about married a gun hating socialist Norwegian gal.. I make things clear in my smooth way how things are right up front.. always surprised me how the gals are so accommodating to my ways. giggity

Ah, unfortunately when I got married we lived in CT and commuted to NY. So concealed carrying wasn't an option. I didn't start carrying until I move to WA. My situation in CT was great. There was a shooting range right next to the train station. I'd get off the commuter train, change in my mini-van, and have some fun with my Ruger Security Six. Lots of 357 Magnum is a great way to blow off steam after a long day at work.

 

[scott_see]

I feel for you and can partially relate. Not all of us have understanding and supportive wives. Good luck!

Thanks!
SHTF situations and marriages to have one thing in common. You need to have an exit strategy.

 

[scott_see]

An idea might be if you have the pursuit channel and can DVR some of the shows with James Towle-Stop the Threat and be casually watching them when the wife comes in. She might be interested in the benefits of having a CCW.

LOL... common sense, logic, and evidence are useless for me. When my wife takes a stand, she doesn't hear a word anyone else says. If some words do get through, it only infuriates her.

 

[scott_see]

In Oregon you can open carry, I don't chose to exercise that right but I'm sure glad it's there. You WILL have a friendly chat with the cops if you open carry down Main Street but they can't ticket or arrest you just for that. Good to know that in Washington your rights can be curtailed if you "alarm" people.

Where I live, no one would care if they saw a gun. I'm about 1-1/2 hours east of Portland. It's pretty gun friendly around here. I wear my NRA Instructor hat all over and I get people asking me all the time where they can take courses.

When I'm in PDX or SEA, I'm much more careful.

 

[scott_see]

I was going by what the OP said about being ticketed....

Nope, didn't get a ticket. Just made by a gun-hostile wife. She knows it's my hobby (pre-dated my meeting her) but it's best she doesn't see guns. It just sets her off.

On a brighter side, I've found that cops could care less about people carrying. (legally, of course) I've asked many, and they are very comfortable with people carrying. That includes PDX airport police, courthouse police (just so long as you check your gun at security), and the local police station.

 

[scott_see]

So the issue is you were made by your girlfriend and she didn't like it? Maybe you could carry your gat around with you in a lunchbox or something and hope she won't notice.
lol, not. wtf?

I usually carry around my laptop in a backpack. Sometimes that backpack is quite a bit heavier.

 

[scott_see]

So a Wa CPL holder is not allowed to open carry? What utter BS!!!

In WA, you're most definitely allowed to open carry. I don't recommend it, for so many reasons, but it shouldn't get you in trouble. Some guy walked right past a school as kids were being let out and he was open carrying. That made the paper, but he wasn't charged.