Washington gun owners heading to Idaho...I don't blame them.

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Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2024/05/wa...ler-who-jumped-border-to-idaho/#ixzz8b5ZdlxVV


There's an exodus underway from West Coast states largely due to left-drifting politics, according to Fox News, and among those heading to "free America" are Washington State gun owners jumping the border to neighboring Idaho.

At least, that seems to be one of the reasons Bryan Zielinski took his family and his professional background in firearms retail to Post Falls, Idaho, about 20 minutes east of Spokane via I-90. As the Fox story revealed—and as Zielinski explained to Ammoland via telephone—Washington became just too political, and the gun laws became increasingly restrictive.


A Washington native, Zielinski worked as the general manager at the popular Wade's Guns in Bellevue, within walking distance of the national headquarters of the Second Amendment Foundation and Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

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[echo1]

Hope it all works out for him. My Kali 01 FFL bud hung up his shingle because it was getting too hard to remember what was what at his age. Post Falls used to have the best gun shop on the planet, Antique Gun Shoppe & Military Items (permanently closed). It was more of a private museum, but everything had a price tag. PAX

 

[TTSX]

The ripple effect will be a crowded, more urbanized and eventually more left leaning Idaho.

 

[bigdhuson]

More like buying there and coming back.

 

[FATAL125]

There was a mass exodus during the plan-demic as well. It slowed slightly, but has stayed pretty consistent with all the garbage 2A "laws".

We had some close friends bail from western wa in '21. Since then they have seen a massive influx of people, good and bad, and the quite spot they moved to in Idaho is not so quite anymore.

I hold no ill will towards anyone who left for the reasons that most have in the last few years. I will say though, it is extremely difficult to fight the good fight when your comrades are jumping ship...

No good ever comes from turning your back to a known problem. Your new, less restricted, state will not last. If the coastal disease continues, it'll make its way to you at some point.

 

[L84Cabo]

What is stopping Idaho from going the same way as CA, OR, and WA...where the one or two biggest cities become Californicated and then turn the state blue....like LA and SF do for California, like Portland has done to Oregon, and Seattle to Washington?

I understand why people are vacating Washington. But isn't Boise turning pretty blue? What is Idaho doing to stop the takeover? Because the people fleeing may find themselves in the same exact situation 5-10 years from now.

 

[TNThomas]

There are a few blue folks in Boise, but I don't forsee the state going completely blue any time soon. The woke minded folks write Idaho off as crazy conservatives, and generally stay away. The blue folks that are there are usually more of the hippy type, loving the earth, and all its inhabitants type of folks. Whom ironically have alot of the same values as very conservative folks. It's a good state, I grew up there, and spend summers, and a few winter nights in the backcountry. I would move there in a heartbeat if my career paid the same out there. But for now I'll put up with all the garbage in WA. Sure is a shame. I feel even worse for the folks in central and eastern Oregon. They are even more conservative/rural than much of Idaho, but get dragged down due to Portland. I 100% support anybody moving where they want due to political/crime issues.

 

[gmerkt]

What is stopping Idaho from going the same way as CA, OR, and WA..

Or changes in federal laws that address some of the oppression that relocators are running from?

The exodus probably won't lower real estate prices in Wash. but it likely will raise them in smaller communities that are absorbing new arrivals.

Seattle, King County and Bob Ferguson won't even notice. In fact, if they are aware of this, they are probably liking it.

I've made a major relocation move already in my life, I'm to old to do it again. But best wishes to those who do it.

 

[Yarome]

Yeah. You hear that shtick a lot. "The more that move there the faster it will turn blue", but that doesn't really hold water. Those attracted to move to Idaho are typically more conservative and of the more convicted to their ideals types. After all, for many, it was their conservative convictions that pushed them to make the move away from their home states so begin with. I would hazard a guess that a larger percentage of them are more politically aware and active voters.

There is much less attraction for blue city dwellers.

Not that the bigger cities might slowly turn more blue, but there really aren't that many large city centers, they have very small population percentages statewide... in contrast to West coast city centers... and the state is still leading many other states in terms of passing conservative laws. IE., The passed constitutional carry way back in 2016, lowered the carry age from 21 to 18 and most recently was the first state to pass a law banning the use of preferred pronouns in public schools.

That certainly doesn't sound like it's "effectively" turning more blue, to me.

Idaho has half the population of Oregon, yet the largest city is less than 1/4 the size of the PDX area and their 5 largest cities, put together, still represent a lower population percentage then PDX alone does in Oregon.

If anything, all indications seem to be that the state as a whole is "digging in" and turning an even deeper shade of red.

It's long been my prediction that we'll see more of that in the future. Redder states turning redder and bluer states going bluer as the population moves more toward segregation.

Exactly what the liberals have been pushing for! A divided America. Once both sides of the aisle become so openly hostile toward the other, viewing each other as "the enemy", it's almost inevitable that people will seek to surround themselves and live in communities of like minded people.

 

[Koda]

There is much less attraction for blue city dwellers.

Liberals want the same rural spaces and outdoor lifestyle as conservatives do.

 

[Jason200911]

Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2024/05/wa...ler-who-jumped-border-to-idaho/#ixzz8b5ZdlxVV


There's an exodus underway from West Coast states largely due to left-drifting politics, according to Fox News, and among those heading to "free America" are Washington State gun owners jumping the border to neighboring Idaho.

At least, that seems to be one of the reasons Bryan Zielinski took his family and his professional background in firearms retail to Post Falls, Idaho, about 20 minutes east of Spokane via I-90. As the Fox story revealed—and as Zielinski explained to Ammoland via telephone—Washington became just too political, and the gun laws became increasingly restrictive.


A Washington native, Zielinski worked as the general manager at the popular Wade's Guns in Bellevue, within walking distance of the national headquarters of the Second Amendment Foundation and Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

Wasn't the jackass at wades the one that said ar15s should be only be for veterans and was super in favor of 1639.

 

[Yarome]

Liberals want the same rural spaces and outdoor lifestyle as conservatives do.

Some, yes. But you have to remember too that once out of their liberal bubbles for the first time in their lives, it is just as likely that they may be swayed toward more conservative ideals represented by the majority in their new settings... and less likely that a group of conservatives is going to be swayed into the more liberal and socialist views of a new blue neighbor.

Wokeism isn't an incurable disease.

The "shtick" we often hear though is that the vast majority of the people moving to a red state are liberals and will spread their wokitis like wildfire among everyone they come in contact with to turn the whole state blue.

I think in the past it was much easier for smaller groups of liberals to propagate their agenda before many really understood what was going on, but today? I don't know if that's really true anymore. Folks seem much more aware of the damage it's been causing and are starting to wake up and actively fight back against the BS.

I think we see that phenomenon becoming even more common where some states are not only "not" allowing the agenda to progress, but passing laws to pre-emptively prevent the same BS in other states from taking root in their own.


In terms of firearms... we see more and more demographics that typically haven't embraced their 2A right doing so now.

Say a liberal that has grown up their entire lives with their family and friends telling them guns are evil suddenly finds themselves in rural Idaho. They get along well with their neighbors, learn to know them as "good people" and one day invited to go out to do a little shooting. What is the more likely outcome? They are going to try and actually convince their neighbors that guns are evil and cause them to dispose of all they own... or... maybe come to realize that "gun culture" isn't exactly what they were raised to believe it is.. and maybe one day might even have the courage to accept an invite to try shooting for themselves(?)

 

[gmerkt]

you have to remember too that once out of their liberal bubbles for the first time in their lives, it is just as likely that they may be swayed toward more conservative ideals represented by the majority in their new settings...

I'm not so sure. It brings to mind the lady from California whom I overheard once. "Where can I find neighborhoods with curbs and sidewalks?" They move with the expectations of having their curbs and sidewalks in the new community.

There are a whole lot more people moving from liberal west coast states to interior states for reasons other than gun laws. Many are looking for lower real estate prices, lower taxes, smaller communities.

 

[Yarome]

I'm not so sure. It brings to mind the lady from California whom I overheard once. "Where can I find neighborhoods with curbs and sidewalks?" They move with the expectations of having their curbs and sidewalks in the new community.

There are a whole lot more people moving from liberal west coast states to interior states for reasons other than gun laws. Many are looking for lower real estate prices, lower taxes, smaller communities.

Isn't that also buying into the bias that mainly liberals are the only ones that move from blue bastions to take advantage of lower real estate prices, taxes, and similar?

Just sayin... when this topic comes up it seems the discussion always leans toward liberals being the only ones that move. Liberals infect and take over every city they move to.

As if conservatives don't move for the same reasons or that conservative communities are so easily swayed to liberal/socialist/woke ideals if they are exposed to them.

I simply don't buy into the idea that they are the vast majority and it's only a matter of time before they turn the entire country into a socialist utopia.

To each their own, I guess.

 

[Certaindeaf]

It's a melding of red and blue, just like a baboons bung.

Yay!

 

[Belial]

Happy for BZ. He is a good dude. I know a few people in my circles that have headed to Idaho on both sides of the political fence. I could see Idaho in my 10 year plan.

 

[Stomper]

It's a melding of red and blue, just like a baboons bung.

Yay!

Don't forget both ends of the spectrum!

 

[nwslopoke]

What is stopping Idaho from going the same way as CA, OR, and WA...where the one or two biggest cities become Californicated and then turn the state blue....like LA and SF do for California, like Portland has done to Oregon, and Seattle to Washington?

I understand why people are vacating Washington. But isn't Boise turning pretty blue? What is Idaho doing to stop the takeover? Because the people fleeing may find themselves in the same exact situation 5-10 years from now.

California and NY are separate issues than most states. There's a slight nugget of truth in their overall lies but the occupants are blinded and won't acknowledge the slow boil. A very few people do and climb out the boiling pot before its too late. The rest are laughing and claiming, the waters great. You don't know what you are missing.

 

[OregonDues]

I came to Portland to turn it Red, these colors don't run and blue is my color too

 

[Koda]

Some, yes. But you have to remember too that once out of their liberal bubbles for the first time in their lives, it is just as likely that they may be swayed toward more conservative ideals represented by the majority in their new settings... and less likely that a group of conservatives is going to be swayed into the more liberal and socialist views of a new blue neighbor.

Disagree.
The amount of people that flip sides (politically) is equal or favors which side is more popular. Society in general has a slightly natural liberal bias.