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Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by branchbuster, May 7, 2010.

  1. branchbuster

    branchbuster Albany Active Member

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    If the point of OSP checks is to stop the wrong people from buying guns and to locate stolen guns, why do they want the gun info when you buy a new gun???
     
  2. TonsOfOregonBrass

    TonsOfOregonBrass Sandy, OR Active Member

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    How do they know it is a new gun?

    Also they keep the records for 5 years then purge them.
     
  3. 2zuks

    2zuks Dallas, Oregon Member

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    Supposedly.
     
  4. nwo

    nwo Southern Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps the OP meant a "new gun" to the buyer. Not necessarily a brand new gun....
     
  5. CharlesAFerg

    CharlesAFerg Beaverton Active Member

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    I'm curious, is there any way to find out if this is true or not?
     
  6. TonsOfOregonBrass

    TonsOfOregonBrass Sandy, OR Active Member

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    Cant offer proof,

    But if you are one of the people who get delayed on a purchase. If you dont buy a gun every 5 years, you have to go though the whole process again.

    I had a guy who in the late 70's committed a crime, court appointed lawyer advised him to plead guilty. Before he was sentenced, the law was repealed. So he technically never broke the law, as it isn't a law. He got delayed for the full time allowed. He went through the same thing 6 1/2 years ago. The state police had no record of him buying a gun 6+ years ago. So they had to investigate the whole matter again. If he buys a gun from me tomorrow he would be approved in minutes.

    Definitely not proof, but an example of at least not everyone still has access to the files.
     
  7. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    I think the whole BG check thing is bogus. If I'm a criminal I'm just going to buy FTF or steal a gun. I'm sure not walking into a dealer's store.

    I buy about 1/2 my guns from dealers and I'm approved in minutes. What good did that do?
     
  8. jeddedia

    jeddedia Wilsonville, Oregon, United States Member

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    It's hard to say if the records are actually purged or not. I'm sure that there is a federal databank somewhere holding every gun purchase since the stone age "secure" against hackers, terrorists, and other threats to Homeland Security blah blah blah.
    It's all just a big freakin' joke! I'm going to get on the soap box for a quick second and just say that we've let our government have too much freedom with our personal and private information. And keep in mind that they're data mining sites like Facebook, Myspace, and have easy access to whatever information we so freely and blindly provide.
    Sure the OSP may purge records in order to save hard drive space, but it's already too late I'm quite positive. Satellites have linked up in outer space to beam our info direct to Mr. B.O.'s desk, so that he can enforce strict policies not to let the bad guys get guns. I guess he's creating jobs for the BATFE... more cushy fed jobs with paid holidays, our tax dollars funding salaries of folks that can't give you an honest or correct answer to any questions regarding FFLs, records, and more.
    /end soap box rant
     
  9. terrylf72

    terrylf72 Portland, Oregon, United States Member

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    http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=5786

    OREGON: State Police to Hold Meeting to Assess Background Check Fees The Oregon State Police (OSP) will be holding a series of regional meetings to review fees charged for services provided by the agency's Identification Services Section, which include background checks on firearm purchasers within the state. In many states, the FBI conducts background checks on gun buyers through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) at no charge and, by law, they may not maintain data on lawful purchasers. In Oregon, the law mandates that the buyer must pay $10 for this service, and the OSP maintains records on individuals cleared for purchases. NRA-ILA strongly opposes any fee hike, as well as the continued registration of legal firearm purchasers. NRA members are encouraged to attend the nearest meeting and voice their objections to increasing the gun tax on lawful gun buyers. (Because this is a widespread review of all OSP services, fingerprint processing of Concealed Handgun License applicants may also be examined.) Please click on the following link for information about meeting dates, times and locations: http://www.oregon.gov/OSP/ID/docs/Regional_Meeting_Schedule.pdf
     
  10. dario541

    dario541 medford, or 97504 Member

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    IMHO, the purpose of the Firearms Background Checks was to create another Government bureaucracy.
    Government is full of wasteful programs which are only designed to take our money away from us. The Vehicle Emissions Check program in Portland and Medford are another example of Government Fraud.
    Another of my pet peeves is the way that there are always parts of the I-5 Freeway being rebuilt. I have been traveling over it since day one and there has never been a time when the freeway was not torn up somewhere. They will build a new bridge and a few years later tear it down and replace it.
    All of the above amounts to JOB SECURITY for a bunch of unproductive government drones (and there are lots more drones sapping our productivity). In a beehive, the workers toss out the drones when times get tough but we Americans allow the drones to run the hive! The drones get richer and we get poorer! And there are a lot more Federal, State, County, City and School bleeding our productivity for their personal wealth.
    I hope I didn't hijack your thread! If, so, I apologize!
    Just, DON'T get me started on these bureauRATS!!
     
  11. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    They will continue to find minority groups such as smokers and gun buyers and then find ways to increase taxes on them. This is a tax.

    There is no end to it unless we change governments at the polls.
     
  12. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    They do not purge them.
     
  13. LetsDoThis

    LetsDoThis Milwaukie, Oregon Member

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    Gunner3456 +1! :thumbup:
     
  14. bt97006

    bt97006 Aloha Member

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    http://oregonfirearms.org/alertspage/05.17.10 alert.html
     
  15. 2zuks

    2zuks Dallas, Oregon Member

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    That is what I thought. Even if they did, don't they require the gun dealer to keep the records forever anyhow?
     
  16. Dan-Dee Sales Inc

    Dan-Dee Sales Inc Sweet Home, Oregon, United States Active Member

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    is that proof?

    And yes they do. Forever. How do you think they check on a stolen gun? They do the paper trail from the mfg to the dealer who sold it. If Oregon kept the records, why not just call them? ATF calls us for the info.
     
  17. willamette valleyfirearms

    willamette valleyfirearms hillsboro oregon Member

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    i was told that they approved a new fee of 15.00 per back ground check and will be put in place soon.
     
  18. branchbuster

    branchbuster Albany Active Member

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    Increase in "the legal gun owner tax".