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Oregon: You have Concealed permit is open carry an option?

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Dyjital, Mar 26, 2010.

  1. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    Not that you would but.. there are areas when you might not have the best concealment options.

    I came across these videos:

    Part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxMaJKEVTAo&feature=player_embedded
    Part 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB3TuTm4a-M&feature=related
    Part 3
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTt_0Iq1xZU&feature=related
    Part 4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqode6S-U5Q&feature=related
    (Yes it took 38 minutes for them to realize they were in the wrong)

    My question spawned after watching the first video.

    In Oregon, a concealed carry permit holder: Do they still have the right to open carry? Correct me on any of my wrongness.

    Permit holder:
    • open carries. They are under the same laws/rules as one who does not have a permit but chooses to open carry.
    • Conceals: under state law regarding concealed carry.

    Can a concealed permit holder get nailed for open carrying? (in the proper places)

    Am I making sense? I hope so.
     
  2. SnackCracker

    SnackCracker Lake oswego, OR Member

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    Yes you can still open carry with a CHL in Oregon.

    And. as I just learned last month, a CHL holder CAN still open carry in Portland, Beaverton, etc... (Those cities have "no open carry laws" but are NOT applicable to CHL holders. However, if you're a CHL holder and open carry in one of those cities, be prepared to be in the same position as the guy in the videos... you'll have some 'splainin' to do. Best to carry the Oregon RCW's in your pocket if you plan on Open Carry in one of those places.

    I carry concealed, but I never worry about my shirt riding up, or printing... If I can Open carry, and Concealed carry, then it makes no difference either way :cool:
     
  3. 56kninja

    56kninja Portland Member

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    You can open carry, anywhere in Oregon (Save for those few places, federal buildings, ect), portland just has stipulations that it CANNOT be loaded.
     
  4. Keane

    Keane Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    If you have a carry permit in oregon, this stipulation against having it loaded doesn't apply. The state has preemption which means that your permit applies (concealed or openly) in all but a select few places, including federal buildings, secure parts of the airport, and jails.

    So short answer: With a carry permit in Oregon, you can open carry loaded whenever, whereever with extremely few exceptions.
     
  5. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    Appreciate the info.
     
  6. mudnducs

    mudnducs Oregon City Member

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    Just as a point. I think gun owners need to start making a point of "open carrying" more often.
    If we don't exercise that right we will lose it by default.
     
  7. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    Yes
    166.250

    I ask because I read this over and over and over and it's hard for me to really grasp the answer to the question. I'm a simple guy and legal stuff confuses me when it's the same thing stated over and over again.
     
  8. Kimber Custom

    Kimber Custom Vancouver, WA Bronze Vendor Bronze Vendor

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    There is nothing in the ORS that MANDATES a CHL holder to carry concealed. The license opens the door to allow you to keep it concealed. As has been pointed out some of the restrictions that are on non license holders in certain city limits do not apply when you have a CHL.

    Someone not long ago had a nice analogy that just because you have a drivers license doesn't mean you can never ride a bike again or walk.
     
  9. NK777

    NK777 West of Portland Member

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    Great videos, amazing how bent the police officer was to turn a law abiding citizen into a criminal. I have to wonder how he got the police tape. I'm guessing he went to court and got the tape released. I am very unimpressed with the police officer that pulled him over. Dropping F bombs and proclaiming the OC'r to be a nut and wishing him harm. Not what I'd call a shining example of WI finests if you ask me.
     
  10. 56kninja

    56kninja Portland Member

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    Also this.
     
  11. 66goat

    66goat Oregon, Hillsboro Member

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    Interesting thread.

    Quick question. I was told in my CCW class that if you were carying concealed and someone saw your firearm that they could press charges. Example paying for something at the checkout and your jacket opens up and the clerk can see your pistol.

    I was curious if this changed being the CCW class was in the mid 90's.

    Thanks
     
  12. NK777

    NK777 West of Portland Member

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    That is incorrect information. You are in no way restricted to carrying concealed simply because you went to the trouble of getting a CHL. A CHL actually expands your options not limit them.
     
  13. Kimber Custom

    Kimber Custom Vancouver, WA Bronze Vendor Bronze Vendor

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    It's private property and they could ask you to leave. If you refuse you can be trespassed.
     
  14. JUSTIficatioN

    JUSTIficatioN Seattle, Wa Member

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    "I just hope somebody kicks the crap out of him" WHAT THE F!?!?!?
     
  15. NK777

    NK777 West of Portland Member

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    Exactly! Not impressed by that particular LEO.
     
  16. biggie24420

    biggie24420 Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    When cops deal with me when i open carry......if they are nice i am nice.....and i will let them know the law.......if they are rude i talk less and don't say anything that could make thing worse....i have yet to ask for a supervisor or sgt. Etc. But all u need to tell them is ORS 166.173 and ORS 166.370. If they r still in ur face tell them to arrest you......and u get to sue hahahahahahaha. If the LEO is on top of his/her game and is a good cop he/she will know that with ur ccw/chp/cwp you have the RIGHT to open carry in public.