Oregon Oregon SB554 Passed

[Pete F]

Pretty sure it can be changed with a ballot measure like any other law. You just can't stop it from becoming law by collecting signatures and getting it on the next ballot like you can with any bill that doesn't have the emergency clause.

This is what I could find other than an Emergency Clause can go into effect immediately or on a specific date other than waiting for the next Jan 1st. The use of an Emergency Clause is considered gaming the system. See links below:

Emergency Clauses in the Oregon Constitution and Laws – Referendum Power Reserved to the People

"My View: Emergency clause abuses democracy," Portland Tribune, 27 January 2015, by Richard F. LaMountain Background: Oregon Constitution Art. 1, Section 1. Natural rights inherent in people. We ...

blog.oregonlegalresearch.com

How lawmakers thwart voters with bogus emergencies: Editorial

It is sometimes a calculated political decision meant to circumvent Oregon's system of direct democracy

www.oregonlive.com

 

[Rem725]

Other than the obvious, what is considered to be a "locked container"?

The gun safe at home should do. What about the single loaded gun in the bedside lockbox?

Aside: Do any of you keep one loaded ready to grab inside the main safe?

This (w)hole mess stinks.

 

[Dinglenutz]

If I read it correctly the cable locks that ship w/ the guns now are legal. It doesn't take much, legally, I think.

Not a lawyer and not legal advice.

 

[Will_White]

Pretty sure Marx had no position on firearms. But he was verbose and a prolific writer so maybe somewhere in Das Kapital or the Communist Manifesto he mentioned it, but I'd think he'd lean toward arming the prolateriate rather than taking their arms.

He was pretty clear on his views

"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary"

 

[Soli]

Iirc Marx was pretty "for me but not for thee" in that. He was for disarming the bourgeoisie. Since in the 2021 context that would be... me, still not a Marx fan.

 

[Will_White]

Iirc Marx was pretty "for me but not for thee" in that. He was for disarming the bourgeoisie. Since in the 2021 context that would be... me, still not a Marx fan.

Of course. He understood that it's harder to take things from people that can defend themselves. I don't agree with his views but his views are basically the opposite of what Gun Control Enthusiasts want.

 

[ARFrog]

Other than the obvious, what is considered to be a "locked container"?

Placed behind locked doors at your local PoPo office

 

[Hueco]

Of course. He understood that it's harder to take things from people that can defend themselves. I don't agree with his views but his views are basically the opposite of what Gun Control Enthusiasts want.

Well, yea, it's hard to overthrow the bourgeoisie without some form of pew pew stick.

 

[billdeserthills]

The gun safe at home should do. What about the single loaded gun in the bedside lockbox?

Aside: Do any of you keep one loaded ready to grab inside the main safe?

This (w)hole mess stinks.

I like to keep at least one gun unlocked & ready for immediate use--I'm worried that the criminal won't wanna wait for me to access my safe

 

[Soren]

Aside: Do any of you keep one loaded ready to grab inside the main safe?

Nope. The ones in the safe have been cleaned and are unloaded. They are not "in service" at all.

 

[E4mafia]

Well folks I hate to bring the bad news.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1399833019171495939

KB has officially signed SB554 today.
This is why we can't have nice things.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1399826844401115137

 

[bkroger86]

Well folks I hate to bring the bad news.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1399833019171495939

KB has officially signed SB554 today.
This is why we can't have nice things.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1399826844401115137

Functionally this doesn't change anything in my household. Everything was in a safe anyway.

 

[Holepuncher]

Why do you have idiots for friends? Tell him move back where he belongs if that is how he feels.

Why did your friend move out of Cali if it's such a great state?

 

[titsonritz]

Well folks I hate to bring the bad news.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1399833019171495939

KB has officially signed SB554 today.
This is why we can't have nice things.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1399826844401115137

The balls on this itch, making dumbass statements like this when her one and only major city hits an 2000% increase in murder, must be pride of the nation. Not once comprehending it is policies just like this that got them there.

This is what they want, to make the list...
https://www.armormax.com/blog/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-2021-deadliest-most-violent/

 

[billdeserthills]

CCRKBA: Seattle police blotter blows holes in gun control myth

CCRKBA TO GUN OWNERS: ‘FLOOD SENATE WITH CALLS ON CHIPMAN’ | Citizens Committee For The Right To Keep And Bear Arms

BELLEVUE, WA – The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is urging members and supporters to contact their U.S. Senators and oppose the

www.ccrkba.org

 

[12-1791]

Maybe I am hard headed but whats this mean if you have something like an SUV or Hackback. Does this mean any time you go to the range you need locks on a everything and a range bag doesn't count if its locked?

 

[Xaevian]

The balls on this itch, making dumbass statements like this when her one and only major city hits an 2000% increase in murder, must be pride of the nation. Not once comprehending it is policies just like this that got them there.

I think she believes that Portland is actually in WA.

 

[12-1791]

I think she believes that Portland is actually in WA.

Its ok despite OR not having an assaults weapon definition the bill calls an AR-15 an assault rifle so many times.

 

[Enk1du]

Maybe I am hard headed but whats this mean if you have something like an SUV or Hackback. Does this mean any time you go to the range you need locks on a everything and a range bag doesn't count if its locked?

I am unsure about a range bag lock, but if you were to leave your vehicle for any amount of time, I'd argue that yes. If you have an SUV/Hatchback, you now need to lock any firearms transported with either a cable/trigger, or other locking container. There has been talk about what "in control of" means, but I'm of the belief that if you were in the vehicle with them, they would be "in your control".

 

[Ryandalling]

Does this mean the case of cable locks that I have been collecting over the years are now worth money? Like, can I trade them for ammo?