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Thanks. Wise thoughts, well stated.
FWIW, I don't open carry.
But I also never publish statements against any reasonable exercise of the citizen right to arms. I think our society has arrived at a turning point where none of us can afford to.
Unity is what we need.
Today, if we cannot put aside minor differences and unite in support of shared goals, the first ever constitutional democratic republic is almost certain to fail.
I'm not sure it should fail.
It survived a civil war and a real financial collapse and 2 world wars and the global advent of true human equality.
The first ever constitutional unconditional equality for all persons was achieved here, nothing more than one of a long series of global firsts achieved here, under this Constitution.
We should be working, all together, to preserve our Constitution, rather than grading each other on how we exercise the rights it protects.
2 cents.
Define "reasonable".
2021 Open Carry.
(No brace. Not me.)
Wow.Again, not looking for an argument, but if you would be so kind as to link the thread you started for the purpose of criticizing another American's personal preference for how they exercise their right to arms, I'll have a look at it and perhap post a reply.
I wanna walk through Costco like this someday.Though I would not do that personally, and would chuckle at someone who I saw doing that, as long as they are peacefully going about their day, rock on fellow American!
I'd probably sling a PDW as a regular basis if it wouldn't cause me to attract so much attention that it would affect my daily life and work.
I wanna walk through Costco like this someday.
This was my point.
I said (paraphrased), "I don't speak against 2A."
You quoted me and said something like, "You don't even speak out against really dumb 2A like this picture, because maybe I do."
I said, "Show me where you started a thread to speak out against that kind of 2A."
You said, "I didn't."
I'm not gonna start a tit-for-tat with you. Go back and read more slowly.
My point was that you probably have never started a thread criticizing other people for how they exercise their right to arms, and yet you are somewhat acting in defense of someone who did. This is not my problem. I am not going to address this problem.
I'm gonna spend a few minutes on A123's reply instead, but first I gotta go do a few other things. Thx.
For the record - I'd love that rig. I'd rock it CC in a heartbeat if needed. OC where I could. Who the heck is gonna give me flack?? Lol.You quoted me and said something like, "You don't even speak out against really dumb 2A like this picture, because maybe I do."
If theres a retention device, it would be more difficult and take more effort to remove.
IMHO
Obviously you disagree.
I engaged EHJ, turns out he is slow or addled by something.
Just simply, 'deleting' your comments retro actively to hide your mistakes is why quoting is important. People may not get the entire context and... 'flavor' of the conversation we were having if you post edit and nuke half this conversation."I like the "go back and delete stuff" feature of this board."
An armed society is a polite society. I've open carried for years, in for 1 because I refuse to pay the local sheriff to exercise a constitutional right, and 2nd because I am positive that on more than one occasion it has actually prevented problems. Anytime someone looking for trouble sees that someone is openly armed, not only are they wondering how many others are armed, and considers someone openly carrying is probably willing to get down, and most criminals are not willing to mix it up especially with some not bound by the rules of law enforcement, most criminals are looking for the easiest targets with the least resistance. The guy walking around with a handgun on his belt doesn't scream target. Plus I've yet to hear that the first victim in a shooting was likely because he was openly armed. More likely that it just discouraged bad decisions. I have noticed over the years that people for some reason are much more civil, and a lot less fukn offended when they see a gun on a belt. I've also noticed that for some reason law enforcement are much less interested in harassing me, as a matter a fact in the years I have been openly carrying I've been around leo's more than I can keep track of, and have not been stopped, detained, not even ID'd, all I've heard from law enforcement is "Nice Sig" as where initially I expected to get stopped, ran for criminal history, warrants, serial number checked, searched, and chastised, hasn't happened once.I was grocery shopping yesterday and came across a gentleman in the cereal isle open carrying a pistol in a kydex holster.....No big deal as I fully believe in the 2nd amendment and a persons right to defend themselves. Why else would I be here on this forum. Anyways, what blew me away was this guy was obviously not aware of his surroundings. I mean I was checking to see if I could figure out who the manufacture of the pistol he had on was, and checking out the holster it was in, and quickly realized he was not paying any attention to me, or anyone else around him as the store was packed. I felt like I could have easily reached over and grabbed the gun out of his holster and done god knows what with it had I wanted to.....assuming it was loaded. But in my book why carry a unloaded firearm right? Anyway, I thought about having a conversation with the guy but didn't think it would have not been very well received. So I wrote him off as an idiot, and moved on. I now regret that decision. Whether I pissed him off or not, maybe he would have learned something or maybe not, but I should have at least tried. I don't know about you guys......but I personally prefer to conceal carry for many reasons. One of those reasons is I don't like to bring attention to myself, and another reason is that I like the element of surprise. Why show your cards if you don't have to.
"The revolution of France has gone on with the most unexampled success hitherto. There have been some mobs occasioned by the want of bread in different parts of the kingdom, in which there may have been some lives lost, perhaps a dozen or twenty. These had no professed connection generally with the constitutional revolution. A more serious riot happened lately in Paris in which about 100 of the mob were killed. This execution has been universally approved, as they seemed to have no view but mischief and plunder."
It's from 1789.
That is EXACTLY what I was saying.....although someone's political affiliation is their own business. I support anyone who wants to exercise their right to open carry or conceal carry period..... I just felt that in this particular situation that I observed, this individual was being careless and irresponsible which could potentially put other innocent people in danger. That's all.Im picking up what your laying down brother, you were referring to the guys apparent lack of situational awareness, and the potential for some bubblegum eating democrat trying to relieve the fella of his pistol and just start shooting people
You never mentioned anything in your original post that suggested he was being careless and irresponsible.I just felt that in this particular situation that I observed, this individual was being careless and irresponsible
Which was your interpretation only.what blew me away was this guy was obviously not aware of his surroundings.