A quick google search netted this...Judge delays release of militia members - Washington Times
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Could you expound a bit?
Really? So all the fear mongering has worked and people are to afraid to do anything at all? No wonder why this is happening, we have all become sheep who will let just about anything happen to us.....What is the difference between this and say a neighborhood watch? You think just because people organize, own arms, and want to prepare for if something happens be it foreign or domestic that the government is going to throw you in jail? I am sure they would love for you to believe that. Do you know how many active militia groups there are in the US? FBI only focuses on the radical tin foil hat ones....Dude, how big of a bonus do you get from the ATF for entrapping people? And how much for convictions?
I disagree. Why do you think organizing people within a community to protect, network, compound resources, and work together for a common goal is a bad idea?Wow. Here's a great way to jump start your file at the BATF.
This is an exceedingly bad idea, and anyone considering it should just walk away now. Go to your range, go shooting. Talk shop on here, collect your firearms for protection, hobby, sport... but avoid ANYthing like this. It's just a flat-out bad idea.
NOW we are getting somewhere - Disagreement is good. Let us know how this works out for you in six months to a year.I disagree.
So how does change happen then? Also if they want to find you they are going to find you and your weapons. And this is not just about the pending ban, look at the economy.Could be a plant setup ............. hmm never thought of that.
Diversion is the best tactic the opposition has to the 2nd.
Why not get everyone in this forum to commit to a Militia group and then they have all who want in
on a list from this forum. ( sarcasm)
I have said from the beginning this is a bad idea. I am stunned as I want my information private
just like everyone else who supports the 2nd.
However the thought here is lets make it easier for them to find us by grouping together with our guns
and then we can show them how smart we are and who we are ??
I for one have no guns sold them all today (wink wink) !!
So no need to join a Militia! If I did have guns (wink wink)
I would have them long after any member of a militia would !
This Sh*t is funny as hell to watch I will say that
It will work out for me good, I already have a small network of my own, supplies, people to help. Community is always good in difficult times. I just believe the more people I can trust, that trust me, and are willing to protect the people and things I love the better. People that only think as individuals are alone, and help when needed is never there.NOW we are getting somewhere - Disagreement is good. Let us know how this works out for you in six months to a year.
By YOU doing whatever you believe will make a difference. Like I said let us know how it works out for you.So how does change happen then?
well this little piece of law says you can be charged for training with small unit tactics...
ORS 166.660 - Unlawful paramilitary activity - 2011 Oregon Revised Statutes
Unlawful paramilitary activity
(1) A person commits the crime of unlawful paramilitary activity if the person:
(a) Exhibits, displays or demonstrates to another person the use, application or making of any firearm, explosive or incendiary device or any technique capable of causing injury or death to persons and intends or knows that such firearm, explosive or incendiary device or technique will be unlawfully employed for use in a civil disorder; or
(b) Assembles with one or more other persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive or incendiary device or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons with the intent to unlawfully employ such firearm, explosive or incendiary device or technique in a civil disorder.
(2)(a) Nothing in this section makes unlawful any act of any law enforcement officer performed in the otherwise lawful performance of the officers official duties.
(b) Nothing in this section makes unlawful any activity of the State Department of Fish and Wildlife, or any activity intended to teach or practice self-defense or self-defense techniques, such as karate clubs or self-defense clinics, and similar lawful activity, or any facility, program or lawful activity related to firearms instruction and training intended to teach the safe handling and use of firearms, or any other lawful sports or activities related to the individual recreational use or possession of firearms, including but not limited to hunting activities, target shooting, self-defense, firearms collection or any organized activity including, but not limited to any hunting club, rifle club, rifle range or shooting range which does not include a conspiracy as defined in ORS 161.450 (Criminal conspiracy described) or the knowledge of or the intent to cause or further a civil disorder.
(3) Unlawful paramilitary activity is a Class C felony.
(4) As used in this section:
(a) Civil disorder means acts of physical violence by assemblages of three or more persons which cause damage or injury, or immediate danger thereof, to the person or property of any other individual.
(b) Firearm has the meaning given that term in ORS 166.210 (Definitions).
(c) Explosive means a chemical compound, mixture or device that is commonly used or intended for the purpose of producing a chemical reaction resulting in a substantially instantaneous release of gas and heat, including but not limited to dynamite, blasting powder, nitroglycerin, blasting caps and nitrojelly, but excluding fireworks as defined in ORS 480.110 (Definitions for Oregon Fireworks Law) (1), black powder, smokeless powder, small arms ammunition and small arms ammunition primers.
(d) Law enforcement officer means any duly constituted police officer of the United States, any state, any political subdivision of a state or the District of Columbia, and also includes members of the military reserve forces or National Guard as defined in 10 U.S.C. 101 (9), members of the organized militia of any state or territory of the United States, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico or the District of Columbia not included within the definition of National Guard as defined by 10 U.S.C. 101 (9), members of the Armed Forces of the United States and such persons as are defined in ORS 161.015 (General definitions) (4) when in the performance of official duties. [1983 c.792 §2; 1987 c.858 §3; 2001 c.666 §§26,38; 2005 c.830 §27; 2009 c.610 §7]
actually that law says that it is only illegal if the intent is civil disorder. you can sell it as a defense self training group and include survival and evasion techniques.
The problem is we get together, those of us who are combat vets start giving everyone training in small unit tactics and DHS labels us all domestic terrorists.