Other State Las Vegas massacre survivors, families reach $735 million settlement with MGM

[CountryGent]

Las Vegas massacre survivors, families reach $735 million settlement with MGM. Curious.

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[E4mafia]

Ahhh i was hoping they would have said they were suing because its supposed to be a gun free area etc...

Was hoping some would have woken up.

 

[CountryGent]

The article doesn't mention it, so I am left wondering how MGM is somehow to blame. It was a evil lunatic that pulled the trigger, not anyone who works at said resort.

 

[EHJ]

Coroners report never id'ed victim injuries with ballistics taken in evidence. ?

A lone man fired over 500 rounds with a better than 75% hit ratio in 13 minutes from over 300+ - 500 yards away using both 7.62 and 5.56?

Why all those rifles? Why bring bolt guns?

Way too many questions - but if you stop asking, we'll give you money.

 

[Tony617]

It is because MGM owns Mandalay Bay resort which the gun man used to stage his attack.

 

[CRBMoA]

You can always read the report. It won't take long.

Two years, Three pages.

Sandy Hook was 1,500 pages in under a month.

But that is none of my business...................................................................................................

 

[OldBroad44]

The is bad news. The only way the hotel could have excluded the guns would have been to turn hotel into a gun free zone and search all guests and their luggage with metal detectors. This sets a precident that all hotels must be gun free zones and actively exclude guns with metal detectors or they are liable for anything a bad guy does with guns on their premises. This could be further extrapolated to all property owners being responsible for the acts of bad guys with guns if they dont declare property gun free zones and exclude guns using metal detectors. This could lead to a future in which 2A is irrelevant cause there is nowhere you can go that isnt gun-free and with metal detectors.

We need laws that make it illegal to abbrogate 2A rights in venues open to the public whether they are private property or not. And/or laws making owners who declare gun free zones fully responsible when anything bad happens that could have been prevented by armed self defense. And we need people to start suing owners when they are hurt by bad guys in gun free zones.

 

[User 1234]

While I have not read the lawsuit, it doubtlessly argues that the hotel breached its duty to take reasonable steps to prevent harm to the public, e.g. hotel staff should have noticed that someone was bringing dozens of guns and hundreds of rounds of ammunition upstairs to a room overlooking the music festival.

 

[WoodsPlinker]

So, the location is responsible for the shooters actions?

This is going to backfire on them eventually, I mean how many buildings does Michael Bloomberg own?

 

[Flymph]

I'd blame the country singer whose concert it was that made them all show up...


Pretty ridiculous that this lawsuit exists...

 

[User 1234]

Apparently the MGM and insurer's lawyers thought these claims had a decent chance of prevailing.

 

[bbbass]

I don't think they should have caved in and settled. I guess they didn't want to gamble that the court would be swayed by emotion and wind up with an even bigger settlement.

But this is encouraging: Famous singer and Vegas shooting survivor slams the 'politicization' of tragedy: 'Where is your humanity?' Slamming the anti crowd and those saying the attendees "deserved it"!! From a former Pussycat Doll... who'da thunk???

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

How is MGM responsible? Why should they have to pay anything.. sure they've got the money.. but there is no legitimate reason for them to pay out due to some psychopaths actions.

Them caving somehow places responsibility on them.. where there is none.
He brought the firearms in, he broke the window he fired on a crowd.. just what did MGM do that makes them liable?

 

[ma96782]

As usual.....no responsibility admitted or attached with the settlement.

Lawyer talk for...……."Here, now just Go Away".

Aloha, Mark

 

[CountryGent]

It is because MGM owns Mandalay Bay resort which the gun man used to stage his attack.

I get that aspect. But without doing a luggage search, how could they have possibly known the nutter had guns in his luggage? And that he would use said guns for mass murder? As far as any hotel staff could have seen, he probably looked like any other guest. (Even a casino isn't going to search anything; I/we've stayed at three different casino resorts in recent memory and they didn't do so, nor would I have consented to such an intrusion.)

But to the point above; MGM's legal team probably figured out it was cheaper to settle. Doesn't make it right, but it was a business decision they had to make.

 

[GWS]

But to the point above; MGM's legal team probably figured out it was cheaper to settle. Doesn't make it right, but it was a business decision they had to make.

So true
I worked for Ma Bell last century and we had numerous suits where we were totally in the right but the powers that be decided it was cheaper to settle.
Such thinking is always wrong IMO.

 

[awshoot]

It is because MGM owns Mandalay Bay resort which the gun man used to stage his attack.

We get that, but how is that MGM's fault? He carried them in in suitcases, not on his shoulder.

 

[CountryGent]

We get that, but how is that MGM's fault? He carried them in in suitcases, not on his shoulder.

Exactly. I get that if a maid, security guard, croupier, etc. saw him packing that much hardware and didn't say something to someone, then there is possible negligence there. But if it was sight unseen, how could they know?

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

The Las Vegas Resort Using Microwaves to Keep Guns Out of its Casino

The technology uses a discreet microwave radar system to scan people for guns, knives, and bombs—without forcing them to walk through metal detectors.

www.wired.com

 

[CountryGent]

Yikes! (Though me and the Mrs only regularly frequent Native American casinos in our home state.)