Kirkland, WA - road rage ends in shootout, CPL holder against shooter with AK-47

[ATCclears]

Victim of Kirkland road rage incident walks us through terrifying gun battle

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[Hunch]

Holy wow

 

[308]

Fired a warning shot... at a guy charging him with a machete.

Right...warned the bad guy that he needed something bigger. Knife to a gunfight and all

 

[MilitantBEEMER]

Why not backup and leave while the guy was coming at him with the machete? Was he out of his vehicle? If so why? Don't get me wrong, I am glad he is ok and hope he faces no charges for the warning shot, however allot of detail is left out of this account.
Hope the bad guy spends some serious time behind bars.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

I wasn't there...That said:
I dislike the idea of a "warning shot" and wonder why no attempt to " break contact" , disengage , get the Hell outta Dodge....etc...

Granted there is not a whole lotta detail from the news article and the way the news is written and reported nowadays , can leave a lot to be desired...so again I wasn't there and there could be more to the story...
Andy

 

[MilitantBEEMER]

I wasn't there...That said:
I dislike the idea of a "warning shot" and wonder why no attempt to " break contact" , disengage , get the Hell outta Dodge....etc...

Granted there is not a whole lotta detail from the news article and the way the news is written and reported nowadays , can leave a lot to be desired...so again I wasn't there and there could be more to the story...
Andy

Exactly. It would be nice if we could get concise and accurate reporting from the media.

 

[308]

Exactly. It would be nice if we could get concise and accurate reporting from the media.

They got the message out and it was "AK-47"....

 

[Joe13]

Warning shot = completely missed with his first shot and needed an explanation

 

[Camelfilter]

Warning shot = completely missed with his first shot and needed an explanation

Warning shot to an attorney = you were not in fear of your life or grave bodily harm...

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Not to forget to mention , just where will that warning shot end up...?
Bullets can do weird things at times...why let one fly , when you don't have too...?
Andy

 

[Joe13]

Warning shot to an attorney = you were not in fear of your life or grave bodily harm...

I know, I was being sarcastic

 

[bsa1917hunter]

I wasn't there...That said:
I dislike the idea of a "warning shot" and wonder why no attempt to " break contact" , disengage , get the Hell outta Dodge....etc...

Granted there is not a whole lotta detail from the news article and the way the news is written and reported nowadays , can leave a lot to be desired...so again I wasn't there and there could be more to the story...
Andy

I'm sure there is a lot more to the story Andy. I also agree with Joe about the "warning" shot. If the guy that fired the warning shot, was in his vehicle and had the option to get the hell out of there, he should be facing charges. A stray bullet hitting an innocent, would not be a good thing.

 

[revjen45]

Re: warning shot - Never a good idea.
That said, I realize that what you see in the "news"paper has only passing similarity or none to what really happened. It still seems driving away or putting the whole mag into his chest would be better alternatives.

 

[bsa1917hunter]

I wasn't there...That said:
I dislike the idea of a "warning shot" and wonder why no attempt to " break contact" , disengage , get the Hell outta Dodge....etc...

Granted there is not a whole lotta detail from the news article and the way the news is written and reported nowadays , can leave a lot to be desired...so again I wasn't there and there could be more to the story...
Andy

I don't know, but the "Good" guys story is riddled full of as many holes as his truck is now. Sounds like he shouldn't have pulled over, waited around for said "bad" guy to get out, charge him, fire a warning shot, then wait for bad guy to flee to his house and get a gun himself. Unless the "good" guys truck was broke down in the street, he had no reason to stick around. This story seems just a wee bit skewed to me.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

I don't know, but the "Good" guys story is riddled full of as many holes as his truck is now. Sounds like he shouldn't have pulled over, waited around for said "bad" guy to get out, charge him, fire a warning shot, then wait for bad guy to flee to his house and get a gun himself. Unless the "good" guys truck was broke down in the street, he had no reason to stick around. This story seems just a wee bit skewed to me.

Don't get me wrong...I don't disagree with you and I still stand by what you quoted from me...

But having been involved with Defensive gun use ....I do know that you will be second guessed , What if and Why did you...till the cows come home.
So since news reporting being what it is today and the fact that I wasn't there...makes me just want to say that I disagree with the idea of a warning shot....and wonder why no attempt to disengage...
Andy

 

[bsa1917hunter]

Don't get me wrong...I don't disagree with you and I still stand by what you quoted from me...

But having been involved with Defensive gun use ....I do know that you will be second guessed , What if and Why did you...till the cows come home.
So since news reporting being what it is today and the fact that I wasn't there...makes me just want to say that I disagree with the idea of a warning shot....and wonder why no attempt to disengage...
Andy

I totally agree with you. It also takes 2 to tango. Both guys were in the wrong. So, who's really the "good" guy and who's the "bad" guy?

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

he should have tried to drive away. if he couldnt, he should have dumped the kid coming at him with a machete.

 

[mkwerx]

Smells fishier than a cat house in Poosan

 

[KKG]

Exactly. It would be nice if we could get concise and accurate reporting from the media.

Don't hold your breath. KIRO is one of the better Real News sources out there.

 

[P7M13]

1. Kid cuts him off.
2. He honks.
3. Both trucks stop at light.
4. Kid brandishes machete at light.
5. Fausto dials 911.
6. ( speculation )
   1. Kid sees this, decides to up ante .
   2. Guy on phone with 911, probably explains BG approaching with said machete
   3. No way to retreat
   4. GG doesn't want to shoot anyone, doesn't think about his truck is good defense against machete.
7. Fires warning shot
8. Kid takes off
9. (Speculation) Guy remains at scene to let adrenaline subside
10. Kid returns with AK
11. Fun times

Edit to add: Tacoma sounds like the part of Detroit I left in 1990 !!