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The guy up in Bellevue, I think that's where it was, caved and settled. THIS GUY WON'T! Support him, back him and the organizations that are taking his case!
I don't think you have any real idea what this means. Does he have millions of dollars to throw away on this? If not he has no choice. He is toast. Sideshow will throw so much lawyer at him that unless he is a multi millionaire who wants to flush that cash down the crapper he is done. :(
 
We all vote. Or at least we all should be. Seattle has more people then the rest of the state. We are bubblegumed
Sadly a LOT of people who "should" know better choose to either not vote at all , saying there is not point, or they throw away their vote because the "better choice" is bellow them and they will not support them. So they write in some protest vote. Telling themselves they are better. Sounds great but then we get jay and next sideshow. Remember this state could not get enough gun owners to sign the petition to put it back to a vote so my Ruger 10/22 would not be an assault weapon. We could not even get that. Has nothing to do with how many people are in Seattle when gun owners can not be bothered. Just not enough pain felt yet. :(
 
Question - if selling (and posessing) hi cap mags is a violation of State Law how is the owner not facing criminal charges, and just a lawsuit?
My guess is because a criminal lawsuit has the potential to go all the way to the Supreme court.
 
From what I understand, Gator is saying they were face to face sales and out of state sales. The statute says it pertains to online sales, so they think they have an out….
 
Question - if selling (and posessing) hi cap mags is a violation of State Law how is the owner not facing criminal charges, and just a lawsuit?
Because selling so-called "high capacity magazines" is a violation of the consumer protection law, not a criminal violation, so a civil lawsuit is the only avenue the state has. There are still stiff penalties though ($7500 per sale or offer to sale).
 
From what I understand, Gator is saying they were face to face sales and out of state sales. The statute says it pertains to online sales, so they think they have an out….
I should think PLCAA should have some bearing here, too. Get some of that sweet Federal "Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law" action going... FAT punitives on that one.
 
I encourage all of you in cowlitz to demand your sheriff and commissioners to stand up an take the fight to side show bob. Remember Brad Thurman swore a oath. Either he keeps it or you guys need to call a vote of removal. They declared cowlitz a 2nd amendment sanctuary. Time to pay up.
 
If they are using the silent majority foundation they are bubblegumed imo. That pretty new group doesn't have the sharpest of minds (I'm trying to be nice) and were easily outmaneuvered by the state in their hb1240 lawsuit (I think that's what it was, someone plz correct me if I'm wrong) previously so that it's pretty much 100% chance to lose. That was a bonehead rookie mistake in that lawsuit that never should have happened. William Kirk won't say anything about it even though people have been asking him to explain how they bubblegumed up so bad. They are bubblegumed. Sucks.
YEAH!! Let's eat our own!! That'll show those dang woketards...!! 👍






(Or shut up, put up and go do something about it in their place)🤔
 
YEAH!! Let's eat our own!! That'll show those dang woketards...!! 👍






(Or shut up, put up and go do something about it in their place)🤔
I cannot control who they hire to represent them. Imo we have to learn to use those lawyers who are successful and not waste our limited financial resources on lawyers who are ineffective. For example OFF hired a pedophile specialist for their case!

Here's hoping this business can get an experienced and successful group like GOA, FPC, SAF, NSSF involved. That will help their case tremendously and I hope they will succeed after getting effective counsel.
 
I cannot control who they hire to represent them. Imo we have to learn to use those lawyers who are successful and not waste our limited financial resources on lawyers who are ineffective. For example OFF hired a pedophile specialist for their case!

Here's hoping this business can get an experienced and successful group like GOA, FPC, SAF, NSSF involved. That will help their case tremendously and I hope they will succeed after getting effective counsel.
This was covered in another thread... but still shafting SAF for having done what they were supposed to, yet having no control over a judge inexplicably siding with the state to move the venue. That really makes them utterly incompetent(?)

Not to mention... GOA and FPC had cases completely dismissed on similar grounds. A judge inexplicably determining that their case filings were without standing and premature. So... GOA and FPC are also bubblegumming us and utterly incompetent, too(?) 🤔

Those that fight for our rights are few and sometimes have to play the cards we're dealt. Doing nothing while we sit around bad mouthing our own gives us an absolute zero chance of any preservation of rights.

They may not be the "best option", but when it's the "only option" we should be supporting those that are actually willing, IMHO.

Just sayin.....
 
Why would he bring this on himself?
Good question. Not knowing anything about the guy I could only hazard a guess. Ever met any of the "Sovereign Citizen" types? There is a bunch of them running around who often go off the deep end. Had a friend who did. Some of these guys start reading too much "law info" and start to really believe they can win fights like this. Often they get to a point where there is just no reaching them anymore. I have to "guess" this poor guy falls in this spectrum somewhere. I would have to guess he really thinks he can win this fight or he would not have done this. Sadly he will NOT win. He will lose and if he pushes it far enough he will lose everything he has worked for. Yes the law is STUPID but, the AG here has basically unlimited money to go after this guy and he will not care what it costs.
 
I know exactly w
I don't think you have any real idea what this means. Does he have millions of dollars to throw away on this? If not he has no choice. He is toast. Sideshow will throw so much lawyer at him that unless he is a multi millionaire who wants to flush that cash down the crapper he is done. :(
I know exactly wha it means. I know Gator and I know there isn't an ounce of back up in the guy. 'Nuff said.
 

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