Just bought progressive press - wow wow and wow

YMMV but I found the 550 easy to figure out what's going on. Most people with patience and mechanical aptitude should be able to pick it up pretty quick. Make sure your room is well lit and you can see the powder as you place the bullet. The powder bar is fairly accurate so once you get it set you can trust it. I check every hundred rounds or so when doing pistol calibers.

For the rounds you already loaded you can do a weight check to see if you have any squib or double charged. Just get an average weight of some good loaded rounds and if you have a variance of your powder charge weight then something is wrong with that round. Also might be a good idea to get a powder check die if you don't trust the machine

 

Oh when you said "progressive press", I had thought you bought the New York Times or something.

 

I got a RCBS lockout die to help calm my nerves on powder loading, you should check it out. In between primer refills I check the powder drop for level and adjust if needed. I use the hornady powder drop and found if I cranked the living **** out of its adjustment bar lock it stays good for a the whole session.

 

Oh wait Dillon has a powder check system as well don't they?

 

Problem is that the 550 does not have enough stations.
I have the 550 and a SDB and run the SDB for loading my 45s. I prefer the self-indexing as opposed to the manual indexing of the 550.
I'll probably sell the 550 and move up to 650 sometime in the future.
I did read how some people have attached a flashlight holder to their 550 or maybe next to it, to shine a light into the cases as they work it.

 

A flexible arm bed lite, or larger light like for a drafting table, (old tech) works well

 

Oh wow did not know that, didn't know there was a progressive with 4 stations :| would explain why it was so much cheaper.

Well then guess the OP could us velcro or a releasable zip tie with a rubber pad on a flashlight and mount it to the side of the press or even the powder measure?

 

This isnt really a reliable method when loading pistol rounds, variances in bullet and brass weights can be larger than the powder charge weights, so you really cant tell. With some rifle loads you might be able to notice the difference.

The best method I have found is check each case visually before seating the bullet, if you have the press set at the right angle, you can see the powder easily. Also I check the charge weights after each 100rds to check for any mistakes or changes in the powder measure.

 

I just picked up a really neat little borelight,with flexible shaft,at walmart for about 5 bucks.if taped to a press,it could be bent to light up any desired area.

as to mearuing loaded rounds,way too many varaibles to do this accurately.pull them if in doubt.

it may be 'wrong',but I haven't peeked into a case in years.I double then triple check the powder wegith being dumped,then watch the powder bar on every pullof the handle,to make sure it's operating,and not dis connected somehow. I DO however check the weight every hundred rounds,never vary's once it's set.that's on my dillon 550b

 

I have a light similar to this for use on my motorcycles. Magnetic base sticks to anything ferrous and I'm good to see my work area. Many of these out there. Also, this style or similar is used in long-distance motorcycle riding to read maps at night by some. Maybe this would work for you:

Littlite Direct ®| Buy Flexible Gooseneck Reading, Task, Map, Craft, Light, Lite

 

I don't remember exactly how the light was setup, but do recall that it was a goose neck type of light.

Of course, if you own a 550 and get your "system" going there should not be any problems with overcharges. You will make each round the same way in the same sequence, unless something goes wrong. If something makes you stop, you check where you are at before continuing,

 

You raised a couple of points that almost everyone who gets a progressive press, of any brand, goes through. You have to monitor 3, 4, or 5 things that are happening every time you pull the handle. It can get confusing until it becomes an ingrained routine. And once it's routine there is the possibility that some important steps are just taken for granted and errors occur.

To answer that there is a product on the market. Not too well known but has been discussed on some of the forums that deal with Competitive shooters. It's the
Press Monitor shown here in several models. SA Development Products

From models with dual power sources so you don't loose track, even in a power outage, to just a simple, basic, no frills, "round counter".

This device can monitor the amount of powder you used, when it's getting low, whether you have moved the press handle to the full limits to insure proper primer or bullet seating, and also includes that light you mentioned.

I will be adding one to my XL-650 before the fall.

For all those others out there that are considering progressive presses for their pistol rounds, don't overlook the Dillon Square Deal B. High volume in a small press for not much more than one of the cheap offerings out there. Lots of Pistol shooters will buy another SDB for each of their pistol calibers rather than bother at all with changeover. Don't have to spend a grand if all you are loading is 9mm, .40, or .45acp.

 

I am new to reloading, so please forgive my ignorance. I am establishing a single stage press (hornady) and gearing up to load my first rounds next week. Question: couldn't you verify your your loads by weight? I mean, you say the first two hundred rounds loaded may be flawed, but if you weighed your cases before loading (not sure if that's common with pistol), wouldn't you be able to minus the weight of the bullet (230 gr?) and see if their is either enough powder vs double charge? I know you're only dealing with a half dozen grains of powder per charge or less...

Also, what kind of puller do you recommend for pistol rounds?

As for the light, they make clamp lights - UberLight LED Task Light for example (though on Amazon, it's $70 - WAY too expensive for me, but similar products may be an option?) that may make things easier.

Thanks for the review of the Dillon - it was very informative, even for a newbee.

 

Unless you wrote the weight of the case on each one before you loaded it you wouldn't have an accurate weight. Pistol case weights can vary almost as much as the weight of some powder charges.

Weighing a finished round to check for errors in powder charges is not a recommended practice. About the only think it MIGHT do, if you were using this method in rifle rounds, is show a "No Powder" round.

With my pistol loads I prefer to use a powder that fills the case at least 90%. This way, if I did have a double charge, it would spill over before I put the bullet in. Double Charges are most dangerous as they almost always do damage the to firearm. At least a squib just puts a bullet in the barrel without spreading parts all over the range. Of course one needs to STOP if they encounter a squib, not continue on by pulling the trigger again on a revolver or cycling the slide on an automatic.

 

Very informative deadshot - thank you for your great response.

 

This is great info.

Would you all recommend going straight progressive for a first time loader who is looking more long term?

I'm thinking .45, and maybe two rifle calibers (30-06) & either a 7.62 or 5.56 (recommendations on a direction?)