Is 40 caliber being faded out?

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[red442joe]

I shoot and prefer the 9mm but fortunately my preferred guns share the same frame with the 40SW, a simple complete slide change and you're you have a multi-call gun. I buy up slides for this reason in 40SW and a barrel in 357SIG, where possible. 40 SW gonna be here awhile, sadly, I do not think the 357SIG will stay as long.

I simply find, fit, or make 9mm barrels for my 40 guns.

Joe

 

[Duneblaster]

The ballistics out of a full size or long slide aren't bad. But it's useless as a slim subcompact caliber. The straight walled, flat tip dimensions of .40 & 10mm don't feed as well as tapered cases & pointed bullets. I like 9x25, .45 Super and .460 Rowland better.

 

[Longwalkhome]

Being old with a good memory for gun stuff I should write out a quick history of how the 40 came about. I used to be well informed reading every scrap of news in the gun world and the 40 is very interesting.

 

[The Heretic]

Maybe it is, maybe its not....

It aint no 45acp, Ill tell you that

.40 S&W 180gr @ 1050 fps

.40 S&W 200gr @ 1000 fps

.45 ACP 185gr @ 1050 fps

.45 ACP 200gr @ 1080 fps

Close enough for me, plus in my pistolas, the .40 S&W has less recoil than the .45 ACP

 

[The Heretic]

I shoot and prefer the 9mm but fortunately my preferred guns share the same frame with the 40SW, a simple complete slide change and you're you have a multi-call gun. I buy up slides for this reason in 40SW and a barrel in 357SIG, where possible. 40 SW gonna be here awhile, sadly, I do not think the 357SIG will stay as long.

.357 SIG is pretty much gone - it never really caught on like the .40 did.

 

[Yarome]

.40 S&W 180gr @ 1050 fps

.40 S&W 200gr @ 1000 fps

.45 ACP 185gr @ 1050 fps

.45 ACP 200gr @ 1080 fps

Close enough for me, plus in my pistolas, the .40 S&W has less recoil than the .45 ACP

...and... you get more rounds than a .45 to tip the scales further.

Over a 9mm... you also get less bullet deflection... if you want to talk about real world practical affect vs. range and ballistics gel testing. (IE., attempting to shoot through a windshield or other resistant angled surface.)

It not as much as an issue as it used to be with 9mm, but "better" is still "better" when it matters.

 

[The Heretic]

...and... you get more rounds than a .45 to tip the scales further.

Somewhat; Glock 21 in .45 - 13 rds with flush mag, 14-15 with +2 mag

SIG 226 in .40 - 13 rd flush fit, 15 rd with +2 mag

The 226 is much more ergonomic than the G21 (IMO) and has a much better trigger. *shrug*

The benefit of .45 ACP is that it handles heavier projectiles better than .40, and in some guns (e.g., Glock 21, FN FNX, H&K, etc.) you can shoot .45 Super, and some you can modify to .460 Rowland.

 

[Yarome]

Somewhat; Glock 21 in .45 - 13 rds with flush mag, 14-15 with +2 mag

SIG 226 in .40 - 13 rd flush fit, 15 rd with +2 mag

The 226 is much more ergonomic than the G21 (IMO) and has a much better trigger. *shrug*

The benefit of .45 ACP is that it handles heavier projectiles better than .40, and in some guns (e.g., Glock 21, FN FNX, H&K, etc.) you can shoot .45 Super, and some you can modify to .460 Rowland.

Comparing apples to apples though... A G21 - 13rds w/+2 option. A G22 - 15rds w/+2 option.

 

[oremike]

.357 SIG is pretty much gone - it never really caught on like the .40 did.

Well, I'll see about that. I get asked quite regularly if I make that ammo. I will be doing load development and testing in a couple weeks and plan to have it on my table at the Rickreall Gun Show.

 

[Xaevian]

The 10mm came back but as far as I know that was because of people wanting bear protection guns in a semi auto and that trend took off.

The 10mm regained popularity due to 10 round mag bans.

 

[trevi]

.357 SIG is pretty much gone - it never really caught on like the .40 did.

True, and that is sad to me.

 

[trevi]

I simply find, fit, or make 9mm barrels for my 40 guns.

Joe

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I like your CZ collection, a lot!! Especially, the 75 SA. Still want one, but the mags are not what i use. I am all over the P10/09 style mags.

You make your own barrels or have them made?

 

[whiskeybill]

.357 SIG is pretty much gone - it never really caught on like the .40 did.

Must be why I keep seeing the same bags of 357 Sig brass at Sportsmans.

 

[E4mafia]

One nice thing about 40s&w is Glock Gen 5 furthered some improvements over all for the cartridge when designing its firearm.

The G23/22 Gen 5 got a slightly thicker slide to help tame the flip. The downside is now you may require a new holster specifically for it (fortunately these already exist).

Glock G22 Gen 5 vs Glock G22 Gen4 vs Glock G21 Gen4 size comparison | Handgun Hero

Compare the dimensions and specs of Glock G22 Gen 5 and Glock G22 Gen4 and Glock G21 Gen4

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Oh yeah,

Remember when 40SW was the only ammo on the shelf during sandy hook scare.
Remember during CV19 panic buys 40sw pistols sold just as much.

 

[Tony617]

I like my HK USP 40:

 

[coop44]

Going to figure out a way to carry my 30-30 contender concealed. Plenty of time to reload while the BG tries to get over the "what the hell was that" reaction while his ears(and wound) are bleeding. Out of a ten inch barrel it makes me smile (and maybe giggle a little). The only thing better would be a 375jdj out of a ten inch, working on it. The terms, "bullet resistant" and "cover" have much less meaning against properly loaded rifle calibers.I have my 30-30 load dialed in, a 147 grain steel jacket copper clad M80 bullet at 2000fps. Still working on a 375jdj load.

 

[red442joe]

I like your CZ collection, a lot!! Especially, the 75 SA. Still want one, but the mags are not what i use. I am all over the P10/09 style mags.

You make your own barrels or have them made?

75, 40b, and RAMI can all share the same mags (some minor base plate issues)-I even have some mags that feed both 9mm and 40S&W.
The second SA 9mm slide was fit to the 40b-shoots like a....9mm 75.
9MM barrels for p09 and p07 fit to 40b, and RAMI, respectively. (couldn't find a 9mm bbl for the RAMI)
I may well have the only 9mm 40b out there.

Joe

 

[156256Hunter]

.357 SIG is pretty much gone - it never really caught on like the .40 did.

They should have called it the .357 laser beam. Great cartridge. I also like .40 and 45.

For people in mag ban states, the 10 round limit takes away the capacity argument as to why 9mm is better than a 40+ cal.

 

[BATTERY]

This thread reminds me of the 90s lol