I dare you to take action against 114

[Cavedweller]

I'm scheduled to speak at the rally at the capitol tomorrow as are others.

What rally? Is there an announcement somewhere? I looked in the appropriate section and I don't see anything current.

 

[Member 34319]

Go buy a gun. That's how you fight it. Buy buy buy buy buy buy!

 

[oremike]

Here is OSSA's take on all this and if you are not a member you should be:

Oregon Ballot Measure 114

Oregon State Shooting association analysis of Ballot Measure 114.

www.ossa.org

 

[PiratePast40]

Go buy a gun. That's how you fight it. Buy buy buy buy buy buy!

That does nothing to help fund an injunction or lawsuit, nor does it show citizen objection to the measure or the deception involved in getting it there. Some portion WILL be in front of the senate judiciary committee. Constant voice and emails will put pressure on the committee chair and governors offices. If someone feels that no further funding is necessary and no help from voters is needed, by all means let the rest of the state know so this all goes away.

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

i donated to FPC

 

[sed]

Just a reminder for Oregonians...if you donate to the OFF Political Action Committee, your donation of $50 for a single filer or $100 for a joint/head of household filer, qualifies for an Oregon tax credit.

Oregonians can make a $50 donation to a qualifying political party/committee of their choosing each year and 100% get this contribution back as a credit on your Oregon tax return.
There are income requirements of single filer making less than $75k and joint/household making less than $150k to get this credit.

This is not a deduction, but a credit.
You send OFF PAC a $50/$100 donation; the state of Oregon gives you $50/$100 back on your tax return.
You are reimbursed in full for your contribution and OFF PAC gets $100 to help fight for our 2A rights.

This is a use-it-or-lose-it credit you can use each and every year.
If you haven't used your Oregon Political Tax Credit this year, I can't think of a better Oregon political cause/group to support than OFF PAC!

More info about OFF PAC - https://www.oregonfirearms.org/oregon-firearms-federation-political-action-committee
How to donate - https://www.oregonfirearms.org/join-support-off

 

[DukeLancington]

Donate to FPC and SAF instead of OFF. OFF completely dropped the ball on fighting 114.

 

[ZigZagZeke]

We need to be getting flyers in every gun store, pawn shop, feed store, auto parts store or anywhere else you can think of. I've attached a flyer that needs to be on the counter at every gun store. Call, email, visit. Do anything you can think of to get people riled up to DO SOMETHING. Don't sit around and cry about legality or taking pictures of your magazines. Get off your asses and get out there. Call the corporate stores like Sportsman's, Bi-Mart, Cascade, and Coastal and ask them to contribute to any organization they like that will be working on legal action.

During the run up to the election, there weren't that many people that actually did anything. Not a single member here attended the rally at the capitol or attended any of the weekly meetings. You can sit around and be a sad sack or you can be part of the solution. I don't care if you make up our own flyers, put out donation cans at stores, call everyone you know, or do something else to help. JUST DO SOMETHING.

I'm scheduled to speak at the rally at the capitol tomorrow as are others. Kevin Starrett of OFF is scheduled and Jeff Kropf from KSLM says he'll be there. If I ask for a show of hands from NWFA members will I be embarrassed? Rally starts at noon.

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What some of us have been working on instead...

Oregon’s Measure 114 sees first challenge: Oregon Firearms Federation files lawsuit to try to stop strict new gun limits

The Oregon Firearms Federation late Friday filed a federal suit against Gov. Kate Brown and the state’s attorney general, urging a judge to bar the recent voter-approved gun control Measure 114 from taking effect next month.

www.oregonlive.com

 

[Camelfilter]

Donate to FPC and SAF instead of OFF. OFF completely dropped the ball on fighting 114.

I don't recall FPC nor SAF on televised debates.

I do recall OFF being on televised debate, solely against 2 proponents for the measure. One of which being rather unprepared...

But sure. Perhaps I'm mkstaken.

 

[Nosferatu]

I don't recall FPC nor SAF on televised debates.

I do recall OFF being on televised debate, solely against 2 proponents for the measure. One of which being rather unprepared...

But sure. Perhaps I'm mkstaken.

A quick look at the SAF and FPC websites have no mention of 114.

OFF has an entire site dedicated to 114 (stop114.com), and is the only one showing legal action taken.

 

[DukeLancington]

I don't recall FPC nor SAF on televised debates.

I do recall OFF being on televised debate, solely against 2 proponents for the measure. One of which being rather unprepared...

But sure. Perhaps I'm mkstaken.

Debates don't win campaigns. Field does. Stop 114 had 0 field, and their slogan (Don't Be Fooled) was downright idiotic.

 

[DukeLancington]

A quick look at the SAF and FPC websites have no mention of 114.

OFF has an entire site dedicated to 114 (stop114.com), and is the only one showing legal action taken.

You can't win a lawsuit if you haven't been harmed. OFF's lawsuit is premature.

And their website was a joke. FPC and SAF don't do political campaigns. OFF declared themselves the vote no campaign and then did nothing.

 

[Librarian]

Donate to FPC and SAF instead of OFF. OFF completely dropped the ball on fighting 114.

As others have noted, SAF and FPC have chosen courtrooms as their fields of action, not elections.

And you did note the financing disparity between OFF and the pro-114 crowd, yes? https://ballotpedia.org/Oregon_Meas...p_and_Purchase_Requirements_Initiative_(2022)
$2.3 million vs $130K

 

[Caveman Jim]

And here we are yet again dividing ourselves even further.
If we don't put our collective heads together and organize accordingly we definitely will loose our rights.

 

[DukeLancington]

As others have noted, SAF and FPC have chosen courtrooms as their fields of action, not elections.

And you did note the financing disparity between OFF and the pro-114 crowd, yes? https://ballotpedia.org/Oregon_Meas...p_and_Purchase_Requirements_Initiative_(2022)
$2.3 million vs $130K

Yeah, you have to do fundraising lol. People don't just magically donate money.

 

[NeoBlackdog]

If we don't put our collective heads together and organize accordingly we definitely will loose our rights.

Or, as a great man once said, "We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately."

Benjamin Franklin

 

[PiratePast40]

For f's sake, quit arguing about who to give money to. They're all going to be involved and some are involved with each other. It doesn't matter. There will be multiple complaints filed. Some will do things differently. Some will be successful in one venue and some in others. Organizations ARE talking to each other. Quit dithering and do something.

 

[ma96782]

Aloha, Mark

 

[dancinghippos]

Yeah, you have to do fundraising lol. People don't just magically donate money.

I have noticed you offering several after-action criticisms of the No on 114 effort. Please explain clearly how you would have done it better with 1/17th the money and 100% of the news media backing the other side. And how you would fundraise to get to parity with the other side so we could buy the exposure they got for free.

Please be specific so we can learn for the road ahead. We need a clearer explanation.

And also please tell us what YOU YOURSELF DID in the last 6 months to support our side. Thanks.

 

[GrayGoose]

Or, as a great man once said, "We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately."

Benjamin Franklin

The ones who need hanging are the ones who commit treason against We the People.
We know who they are, and so do they.