Home Defense Shotty List - Agree/Disagree?

DeanMk · Mar 3, 2017

RicInOR said:
Target Acquired: 6 Best Shotguns For Home Defense
Agree / Disagree with the list
Without going down the a .45 is better ... path, please.

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My list:
The shotgun you have. Even if it is just a single shot.

Exactly! Good post, Ric. :s0155:

Dean

spectra · Mar 3, 2017

Well sold my Saiga years ago.........it was converted and had a few 20 round drums..........lets just say it was the go to gun.......

DeanMk · Mar 3, 2017

I thought something was a bit...off with that article, so I went back over it.
I find it odd that the quintessential "sawed off shotgun" was left off the list.
Yep, take a look...not one SxS to be seen, anywhere.
Whenever anyone brings up the subject of stubby tubes, a SxS is the first thing that comes to my mind.
Guess I must be getting old...interesting how times change.

Dean

Joe13 · Mar 3, 2017

DeanMk said:
I thought something was a bit...off with that article, so I went back over it.
I find it odd that the quintessential "sawed off shotgun", the break action SxS, was left off the list.
Whenever anyone brings up the subject of stubby tubes, a SxS is the first thing that comes to my mind.

...interesting how times change...

Dean

Well, if you listen to my dad - the only gun a man needs is a double barrel SxS....

I want one of everything

DeanMk · Mar 3, 2017

Fair enough, but I referring to the list the OP posted.

Dean

Alexx1401 · Mar 3, 2017

Joe13 said:
I guess that's really not bad if you can afford an M1, scar or other higher end rifle.

Maybe something to save up for

Yep. Wife and I were looking serious at a KSG a few times when they were still in the $1300 range. They have come down more now but this thing is even more tempting to me now.

GGJohnson · Mar 4, 2017

Alexx1401 said:
Yep. Wife and I were looking serious at a KSG a few times when they were still in the $1300 range. They have come down more now but this thing is even more tempting to me now.

I had been on the fence with KSG as well, but didn't like the fact that it ejects casings onto one's wrist/mag selector lever bit. The SRM1216 has traditional side ejection, and other features I preferred like semi-auto and breacher barrel. There's even a less lethal bolt SRM developed that cycles properly with bean bags/rubber slug/ball, and lighter loads. Put one of those in with Aguilla's mini #4 buck shot shells, and you'd be about 25 rounds/mag between reloads...in case you're one that doesn't like to pause a lot

.1216 breaks down like the AR, for easy bolt access/cleaning too. As long as I was dropping over a grand on a shotgun, I went for all my wants on one platform rather than going with KSG and feeling like I'd settled due to budget. No regrets!

Jnarowe · Mar 21, 2017

Core said:
We used Federal 00 plated buckshot in the Navy. I was trained by Blackwater contractors, with NSW training protocols and they said that's the only 12 gauge 00 buckshot shell that was up to snuff. Over the years I have followed several capable instructors who train many people each year and see far more training than I do, and they have stayed true to the Federal Premium 00 buckshot, in that it's the only stuff that patterns consistently. The stuff Winchester loads for the gov is not the stuff that Winchester Olin sells at Walmart from what I have read from multiple sources. 00 patterns tighter than most folks realize, and it's not a blunderbuss type shell. Aiming and potentially reloading is a requirement for moving targets. We used shotguns for breaching, and clearing rooms and spaces/compartments on ships. (scary bubblegum considering the plated shot bouncing around the steel p-ways..) This is why the Specops boys and VBSS types use the Mk18 in 5.56Nato, it's more maneuverable and safer with more capability. I sidelined as VBSS, and SAT Leader, also did Coastal Warfare. We used MP5N/SD's, Shotguns, and M9's for VBSS in my time. Overwatch used M14's with IR and M60's. On the land we used M16's/M4's, and MP5's, M9's and Sigs. I worked and carried out numerous missions with Seals who carried MK46 para, M60 para, M4 SOPMODs and MK18's, and Sigs. I carried a MK46 on a mission. I also worked with AUS SAS, DevGru, Delta, and many other allied spec ops.

With zero professional experience as described, I still prefer the Federal 00. So your comments bring a smile. I just like the way they run & pattern. Thank you!

Sgt Nambu · Mar 26, 2017

Ura-Ki said:
My truck gun is a Cut down 870 Super mag turkey gun I got from a dude who found out the hard way that Turkeys are not an easy bird to hunt and even harder to kill! I changed out the stocks to the original Remmy plastics and cut the barrel to 21 inches and welded on a pig stickin mount plus a breaching device, cause I actually know what it's for and how to use it! Also added a ghost ring rear sight and trit front sight pin from a glock! If I had to choose ONE over all others, the Remmy has the nod over the mossy, no parts to fall out and loose when you take it apart! Mossy I like for the tang safety

Sorry but!!!

:s0122:

Sgt Nambu · Mar 26, 2017

Jnarowe said:
With zero professional experience as described, I still prefer the Federal 00. So your comments bring a smile. I just like the way they run & pattern. Thank you!

Not on Jnarowe, but to all who give a poo about defensive shotgun patterns, really? It's close range, shoot it like a rifle! Nothing spreads across a whole room!
I'm not meaning you have to install or use rifle sights, just use the muzzle and aim low. Unless you are clearing Costco the wound is going to be the size of your fist. Tight, even patterns or ragged as my boxers, who cares, he's down!
I do like sights on my HDSG's, in the outside event of fighting outside or clearing Costco! Very unlikely events, though!