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[U201491]

NRA-ILA | New York: Gun law arrest draws criticism

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/in-the-news/2013/10/new-york-gun-law-arrest-draws-criticism.aspx

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[mjbskwim]

They made their bed,now they must lay in it.
They voted them in,they let them make the laws,they need to follow the laws or GTFO of NY
Kinda simple if you ask me

Unsympathetically
Mike

 

[billdeserthills]

Sure hope the new criminal doesn't lose his gun rights over that one

 

[jbett98]

I would have a whole bunch of loaded mags with seven rounds in them, and then practice switching mags.

 

[2Wheels4Ever]

I would leave and never look back.

 

[U201491]

How to create new criminals to control. Add cartridge and stir.

Just curious.
Anyone ever study how many laws exist in the US.
DO THEY even have a number that could define it..

How many just in the library of congress, not even counting the states ?

Intent = turn 80% of the population into "controllable" criminals.
No one EVER discusses a law reduction bill. That is what is needed.
One law that would eliminate the need for all the rest is = No communists, marxists or socialists allowed to ever hold office in any capacity allowed.
That would heal every problem in the nation overnight.

 

[Toxic6]

They made their bed,now they must lay in it.
They voted them in,they let them make the laws,they need to follow the laws or GTFO of NY
Kinda simple if you ask me

Unsympathetically
Mike

I disagree......I am finding it harder and harder to believe that all these laws and "officials" are actually getting the votes they claim when they shove their ideals down our throats. I have seen too many times where laws were actually voted down repeatedly just to reappear and be passed in back door sessions or governor specials. I lived in Colorado when they repeatedly voted down the smoking agendas, and finally the governor just came out and said "we know what is best for you and this is how it's going to be in my state" and they passed it anyways......all the sudden smoking was banned in public buildings against the public voice and vote. That is just one specific example, I could list them on and on. The more recent Colorado gun laws weren't voted in either, just passed since they know what is best and all........

The people have to operate within the laws and procedures established and enforced by criminals who operate outside of the same rules.

 

[U201491]

I disagree......I am finding it harder and harder to believe that all these laws and "officials" are actually getting the votes they claim when they shove their ideals down our throats. I have seen too many times where laws were actually voted down repeatedly just to reappear and be passed in back door sessions or governor specials. I lived in Colorado when they repeatedly voted down the smoking agendas, and finally the governor just came out and said "we know what is best for you and this is how it's going to be in my state" and they passed it anyways......all the sudden smoking was banned in public buildings against the public voice and vote. That is just one specific example, I could list them on and on. The more recent Colorado gun laws weren't voted in either, just passed since they know what is best and all........

The people have to operate within the laws and procedures established and enforced by criminals who operate outside of the same rules.

 

[billdeserthills]

I disagree......I am finding it harder and harder to believe that all these laws and "officials" are actually getting the votes they claim when they shove their ideals down our throats. I have seen too many times where laws were actually voted down repeatedly just to reappear and be passed in back door sessions or governor specials. I lived in Colorado when they repeatedly voted down the smoking agendas, and finally the governor just came out and said "we know what is best for you and this is how it's going to be in my state" and they passed it anyways......all the sudden smoking was banned in public buildings against the public voice and vote. That is just one specific example, I could list them on and on. The more recent Colorado gun laws weren't voted in either, just passed since they know what is best and all........

The people have to operate within the laws and procedures established and enforced by criminals who operate outside of the same rules.

Not only that but currently Ignorance of the law is no excuse,
I'd like to know which lawyer or judge has zero ignorance of all laws?

 

[peetar]

ROGER KIMBALL: Remembering America. Note this: "The United States has 5 percent of the world's people, 25 percent of its incarcerated people, and half of its trained lawyers (who now take about 10 percent of the GDP); the legal system is an embarrassment, and the criminal-justice system is a disgrace, in which prosecutors win 99.5 percent of their cases, 97 percent of them without a trial. The legislators of the country are ultimately responsible for this corruption of what the Constitution and Bill of Rights set up as a just and merciful Society of Laws."


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Roger?s Rules » Remembering America

 

[Caveman Jim]

I would leave and never look back.

I would have never gone there in the first place!!!

 

[Caveman Jim]

NRA-ILA | New York: Gun law arrest draws criticism

NRA-ILA | New York: Gun law arrest draws criticism

I hear recalls coming to NY!!!

 

[Brutus57]

They enforce the laws they like, and not the ones the don't. Time and again when I lived in King county the voters said 30.00 only for car tabs. Olympia could care less and so let adding some such bs fee over and over. Now no matter where I am in the state I pay a weight tax for a 500 lb motorcycle. Yeah, I am really tearing up the road with that. They are doing their best to criminalize us. Soon it will be a civil rights violation to disagree with the prez.
NY did make their bed by electing tools like Bloomberg.
Brutus out

 

[mjbskwim]

I disagree......I am finding it harder and harder to believe that all these laws and "officials" are actually getting the votes they claim when they shove their ideals down our throats. I have seen too many times where laws were actually voted down repeatedly just to reappear and be passed in back door sessions or governor specials. I lived in Colorado when they repeatedly voted down the smoking agendas, and finally the governor just came out and said "we know what is best for you and this is how it's going to be in my state" and they passed it anyways......all the sudden smoking was banned in public buildings against the public voice and vote. That is just one specific example, I could list them on and on. The more recent Colorado gun laws weren't voted in either, just passed since they know what is best and all........

The people have to operate within the laws and procedures established and enforced by criminals who operate outside of the same rules.

Uhhhhh sounds like what I said,they voted them into office............
Wasn't your Governor voted in by the people?
Y'all voted him in then y'all had to deal with him right?
And I'm talking about the people in office not the laws. Maybe the laws didn't get the votes,but the cork smuckers in office decided to pass them anyway.

Either way,they made their bed now they must lie in it.
BTW,the way you worded it,you don't disagree.

 

[Dunerunner]

Admit your mistake and vote them out. If the majority wants that type of parental control, vote with your feet!!

 

[Misterbill]

Sadly, NYer's for the most part LOVE their restrictive laws. Same goes for Mass and CA. The vast majority of people think these laws are wonderful and cheerfully vote for politicians who promise to make them yet MORE restrictive.

As the saying goes: "If your boobs sag, they can fix that. If you're ugly, they can fix that. If you're fat, they can fix that. BUT YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID."

All you can do is move someplace where the stupid is less prevalent.

 

[Toxic6]

Uhhhhh sounds like what I said,they voted them into office............
Wasn't your Governor voted in by the people?
Y'all voted him in then y'all had to deal with him right?
And I'm talking about the people in office not the laws. Maybe the laws didn't get the votes,but the cork smuckers in office decided to pass them anyway.

Either way,they made their bed now they must lie in it.
BTW,the way you worded it,you don't disagree.

IDK, maybe I don't disagree then........still think I might a little though. Since I never seem to find the people who vote for these guys, I have to wonder if they really got the votes to be there to shove these laws through. But then again, not knowing who voted for these jokers may be due to who I associate with and the forums I hang out on

Still, I am planning on moving back to Colorado and will plan on obeying whatever garbage the overlords have deemed the new way. Was brushing up on the "new laws" since they are to be the law of the land, even though it looks like most sheriffs offices are not going to be enforcing them. Basic read of the main two is looking like if you own fun guns and mags, they're family heirlooms. Guns all have to go through FFL and the state system to change hands unless it's immediate family, and standard magazines can't be resold (confused on whether grandfathered magazines can stay in the family, but since they are going to have close to zero chance of proving when or where a mag came from short of surveillance or some kind of sting op i have to laugh at the absurdity of it).

 

[U201491]

I hear recalls coming to NY!!!

With who they elect in that state, I doubt they have the gonads to go out their doors after 4PM.
Let alone go after their politicians or laws.

 

[drew]

I would have never gone there in the first place!!!

Exactly. I'll happily avoid NY.

 

[cookie]

Most of the politicians have been reelected for many terms. I have a an idea that most voters choose their candidates only by name recognition or TV ads and never studying what they have done.