Washington Fixed blade knife concealed

[Nick Burkhardt]

Veteran kicked out of Everett McDonald's after open-carrying weapon

Jonathan Nagel said he was asked to leave after obeying the manager's orders of putting his knife away.

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[solv3nt]

That's cool, you can use the tweezers to get your bullets back!

With the cost of ammo, those gang bangers must really hate each other. Do food stamps work on ammo?



Asking for a friend.

 

[No_Regerts]

I thought Washington knife laws varied by city.
Just saying.

There is no preemption in regards to knives. The RCW, on it's own, sucks.

 

[titsonritz]

That's cool, you can use the tweezers to get your bullets back!

I thought they were only good for a roach clip.

 

[Member 53328]

Spyderco and Toor Blades.

 

[Mathias]

Spyderco and Toor Blades.

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Neck knives???

 

[Member 53328]

Neck knives???

Nope. 1 is a folder (spyderco) which goes in my right pocket and the fixed blade I carry IWB.

 

[Gunbuggy]

OP: "I know Washington says no "dirks or daggers" concealed."

Dirks and daggers are a specific classification of blades. They by design and shape are different from common 'hunting" knives.
Dirks and daggers are sharpened on both the top and bottom of the blade vs. only one edge as a hunting style knife.
The advantage of a fixed blade over a folder is for serious combat use the fixed blade by design should have a much thicker blade and hilt/spine into the handle to provide strength against breakage. folders by design are weakest at the hinge.

Smiles,

That's kind of the main answer I was looking for. So a standard fixed blade that wouldn't be classified as a dirk or dagger is not covered under this law it seems

 

[308n45]

General consensus seems to be a "dirk or dagger" is anything with two sharpened edges and/or has a profile for stabbing wounds as opposed to slashing wounds. So no rondelle daggers, V-42 style stilettos or icepicks carried concealed.

 

[RicInOR]

Washington - Knife laws

Washington knife laws are stupid https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/veteran-kicked-out-of-everett-mcdonalds-after-open-carrying-weapon/281-c5399b4c-3f7a-421a-bcf1-cd2ef1e89d3a

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Can Anyone Help Me With Washington Knife Laws?

I realize this is the FIREARMS legal section but gun owners usually have a handle on the knife laws as well. Mods, please move or delete this if you feel it's necessary. Questions...and/or please feel free to redirect me if there is a good source for this info: Is it legal to carry a fixed...

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[Knebel]

Honestly, the guy was black. Then, how does it make anyone safer if its there but not visible??? Also, if concealing a fixedblade is illegal in WA, didnt the manager coerce him into doing an illegal activity. I mean... should have just left and gone to burgerking, snowflakes can't even handle a tiny neckknife??? Actually, I would have probably called the cops on the manager lol

 

[Lethal Defense]

I know Washington says no "dirks or daggers" concealed. I'm wondering #1 if anyone follows this and #2 if there's a "loophole" (I hate using that word) on this. I know a lot of guys that conceal a fixed blade either in their edc pack or their Fanny pack. Those guys breaking the law? Not that you'd ever get caught anyways, shoot I carried a concealed handgun for years before I ever got a permit the day I turned 21.


But I was hoping to add a little sheathe-mounted fixed blade to the Molle section in my edc backpack and another smaller version in my Fanny pack (both inside the pack and not "open" to view so concealed)

Is there a type of knife that is a fixed style blade but does not fall under a "dirk" or "dagger" in Washington laws? I also see the part of the law that says "furtively carry with intent to conceal a dirk dagger pistol or other dangerous weapon". Furtively translates to "in a way that attempts to avoid notice or attention; secretively." So I assume that's black and white… can't conceal a dagger or dirk.. but I don't see anything stating "fixed blade" in general.

Can anyone give me some answers on this one?

Don't trust the internet for legal issues. Please see handgunlaw.us and go to the knife section. A fixed blade in Seattle (city) is not legal (a few exceptions). Each city makes its own laws. Generally if it's a folder, and the blade is less than 3.5 inches, and certainly under 3 inches, you are legal.
Understand for purposes of arrest it will be how the arresting officer measures it on scene, which may include the non sharp portion before the hilt. A judge or jury will then review blade edge length per (indirectly) case law, and jury instructions provided by the judge.
A knife is just a tool. Why do you have that tool? Self defense may not be an appropriate answer. Opening boxes or mail it might be more useful