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I haven't waded through this whole thread but in a nutshell , selling a gun to a private individual in Oregon from an private individual requires what in the way of checks or whatever?
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I haven't waded through this whole thread but in a nutshell , selling a gun to a private individual in Oregon from an private individual requires what in the way of checks or whatever?
Thanks!
I haven't waded through this whole thread but in a nutshell , selling a gun to a private individual in Oregon from an private individual requires what in the way of checks or whatever?
Thanks!
I haven't waded through this whole thread but in a nutshell , selling a gun to a private individual in Oregon from an private individual requires what in the way of checks or whatever?
Thanks!
You ask what is REQUIRED.
Nothing really. You need to know they are an Oregon resident, not a prohibited person and are over 18 years old...you can ask them the questions. You can ask them the questios, and believe them or not...That is up to you. There is no REQUIREMENT that you make them prove they are what they say they are.
As for tracing a gun back to you...you just say I sold it. You do not have to tell anyone who asks, or even know who that person is/was. No one can "come back" at you for something someone else did after you no longer own the weapon.
I, personally, an very unhappy with the attitude of some on this and other gun sites...they do not want to show Law Enforcement their ID just because they have a weapon, but demand ID from another citizen if they are selling a weapon...Tlak about two faced.
Yes, the law does not prescribe a specific requirement for such sale, but there are things like "conspiracy to commit a felony" and "criminal negligence". Reasonable person standard can be applied in such cases, and then you better hope that the 12 jurors have the same standard as you do.
You obviously do not understand the LAW. You sell a firearm (or have one stolen from you) you are no longer liable for whatever happens with that gun afterwords...The Brady buch tried, but that does not stick.
Once again - reasonable person standard. 17 year old buys a handgun from you, because you haven't checked his ID. Then goes on a rampage at his high school. Next thing you know you're dragged into the case on the grounds of criminal negligence. On the stand they ask you "have you verified buyer's ID?" Then try proving you're not a goat.
You obviously do not understand the LAW. You sell a firearm (or have one stolen from you) you are no longer liable for whatever happens with that gun afterwords...The Brady buch tried, but that does not stick.
IMHO: Trust worthy people trust others word...If I ask you if you are a prohibited person and you answer "no", 1: I will believe you and 2: That is what is REQUIRED.
Next time a LEO stops you and askes for your ID...remember what you just wrote...and give him your ID, no quibble...I don't and I won't. he, along with everyone else just has to take my word for it...especially as I normally do not carry any ID. (other than a drivers license, and it stays in the car where it is needed)
And YOU don't understand that it's not about understanding the law! Rather, it's about understanding the pitfalls inherant (sp) in the legal system. It's about NOT opening yourself to liability, lawful or not!
I tend to be rather idealistic myself, but at times it's smarter to be pragmatic. Ronald Reagan put it this way: "Trust, but verify!"
I'm going camping at Prineville Reservoir in Central Oregon, and during my time there my family wants to stop by Crater Lake and the Lava Caves (or whatever they're called). Open carry/concealed carry friendly? I know at Crater Lake there are signs prohibiting weapons inside the buildings, but the rest of the park is ok?
Yes, you may OC, or CC with an Oregon CHL, not a problem. Bend has some unlicensed carry restrictions...you might want to read their local code if you do not have a CHL.
I live in OR and I'm looking to buy a pistol from a friend in WA. He claims that if I get a bill of sale that I could then take it to an FFL myself in Oregon to get the legal stuff whacked out. This sounds like how I would do for a car, but not for a handgun. Is this legit or does he need to take it to an FFL in WA for the transfer to my FFL in OR?
Another alternative: Should I be able to talk him into meeting me at the gunshow at Expo this weekend, is there a way to get it transferred to me legally there? I KNOW that you can NOT do a simple private sale there regardless of state of residence. Thanks for any help.
I live in OR and I'm looking to buy a pistol from a friend in WA. He claims that if I get a bill of sale that I could then take it to an FFL myself in Oregon to get the legal stuff whacked out. This sounds like how I would do for a car, but not for a handgun. Is this legit or does he need to take it to an FFL in WA for the transfer to my FFL in OR?
Another alternative: Should I be able to talk him into meeting me at the gunshow at Expo this weekend, is there a way to get it transferred to me legally there? I KNOW that you can NOT do a simple private sale there regardless of state of residence. Thanks for any help.
This is my understanding, as well.My understanding of the AFT regs is, your friend has to give/get it to the FFL in OR, then the FFL and transfer it to you. Your friend could take it to the EXPO gun show, your friend can give it to an FFL there, then the FFL can transfer the pistol to you.
It would not be legally possible for you to do the transaction by yourself as the WA owner must get the pistol to your FFL before you can take possession according to the ATF.
Some FFL's will only accept from another FFL, but that is their personal policy, not law.