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Further clarification from FPC today on what constitutes "membership", and therefore coverage under the 5th circuit's injuction of the brace rule.
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That's ridiculous. The brace pistols were clearly legal up until the ruling, and you can't get a stamp for a tax you weren't assessed and didn't pay.To be frank, I would rather touch a spent nuclear fuel rod than these fake "amnesty" form 1 registrations.
You are admitting to ATF (with photo evidence!) that an NFA violation occurred, and you don't even get a true tax stamp for your trouble (literally-they don't give you an NFA tax stamp, just a waiver).
For what it's worth.... they didn't ask me for a photo of the whole firearm. Just the lower markings and that's it.To be frank, I would rather touch a spent nuclear fuel rod than these fake "amnesty" form 1 registrations.
You are admitting to ATF (with photo evidence!) that an NFA violation occurred, and you don't even get a true tax stamp for your trouble (literally-they don't give you an NFA tax stamp, just a waiver).
It's not worth the time to educate people with the boogeyman mindset imo. Calling it a "waiver" is just ignorance. Prosecuting for signing up on their formal amnesty program also is of course ridiculous.For what it's worth.... they didn't ask me for a photo of the whole firearm. Just the lower markings and that's it.
Edit. The only photographic evidence they have is of the lower. Everything else looks same as tax paid forms from what I can find except for the addition of "tax exempt firearm" relating to the Final Rule thing. We shall see what happens; throw out Final Rule, keep those who've registered as SBRs, throw out Final rule, destroy records, send letters telling them to revert back to pistols,
Don't throw out Final Rule, ATF gets to go after "unregistered SBR" owners
Throw out Final Rule, and overturn SBR portion of NFA, destroy records, tell ATF to stay in lane; Best outcome possible
Also; they've been doing tax exempt form 1s for a long time for Law Enforcement and Govt Agencies, so this isn't the only time
I have registered NFA items. Do you trust this administration not to pull the rug out from amnesty seekers if this goes our way in the courts?It's not worth the time to educate people with the boogeyman mindset imo. Calling it a "waiver" is just ignorance. Prosecuting for signing up on their formal amnesty program also is of course ridiculous.
Concerns such as future registration leads to confiscation fe may be valid someday who knows, but the ignorant BS that poster is spewing you are not going to be able to educate him. I wouldn't bother personally.
Per FPC's latest announcement, it is lowered to $20 paid in any form (T-shirt, two $10 donations, etc.) during this fiscal year. Today is the last day to jump aboard.Looks like now you have to pay $30 to be a member of FPC after their change on Sunday.
FPC Statement Regarding Membership
Today, Firearms Policy Coalition (FPC) issued a statement regarding membership:www.firearmspolicy.org
The GCA was a bona fide act of congress. Our current situation rises from arbitrary "lawmaking" on the part of a federal alphabet agency at the behest of the executive branch. I do not equivocate the two-others may hedge their bets as they see fit.Did they ever "pull the rug out" under for the 1968 Machine Gun amnesty stamp holders?
This is from Ian McCollum (Forgotten Weapons) from 6-7 years ago:Did they ever "pull the rug out" under for the 1968 Machine Gun amnesty stamp holders?
For the sake of completeness, 2 things a person can do, but don't belong in the "known legal methods" of your list:5 things people can do, 1 which will be impossible after today,
1. Destroy firearm
2. Turn firearm to AFT right....
3. Reconfigure to "non SBR"; add 16" barrel. May as well as give it a real stock basically the Thompson Center Arms Contender method.
4. Remove brace "permanently so it cannot be reattached"; AFT never clarified that, Director claims "just take brace off is ok" basically reconfigure to pre Pistol Brace pistol configuration IE; naked buffer tube. Could destroy brace if desired to make it "permanently incapable of being reattached"?
5. Register tax-free with AFT, supposedly not gonna go after people who have applied by today before midnight. Might be riskiest, might be safest, who truly knows?
As for the court cases and Congress.. if anyone thinks the pistol brace ruling will be overturned before the 2024 election year, I've got a bridge in Alaska to Russia to sell
Court cases will take a while to get to SCOTUS; by which then there is a chance of a 2A-friendlier President sitting and a slim chance of Senate swinging to a Republican Majority... and even then.. looking at how Congress was during National Reciprocity and Hearing Protection Act....
I didn't even submit a photo. Only required for 80% builds.For what it's worth.... they didn't ask me for a photo of the whole firearm. Just the lower markings and that's it.
Edit. The only photographic evidence they have is of the lower. Everything else looks same as tax paid forms from what I can find except for the addition of "tax exempt firearm" relating to the Final Rule thing. We shall see what happens; throw out Final Rule, keep those who've registered as SBRs, throw out Final rule, destroy records, send letters telling them to revert back to pistols,
Don't throw out Final Rule, ATF gets to go after "unregistered SBR" owners
Throw out Final Rule, and overturn SBR portion of NFA, destroy records, tell ATF to stay in lane; Best outcome possible
Also; they've been doing tax exempt form 1s for a long time for Law Enforcement and Govt Agencies, so this isn't the only time
I think scotus will overturn the rule eventually and any sbrs that have already been approved will remain approved.Most ideal but least likely outcome; overturning and/or repeal of all Fed gun control laws.
More likely outcomes, from best chances to snowball in hell.
Final Rule overturned by District Judges; appeals(during which time DOJ gonna continue business as usual, see Cargill ), SCOTUS docket, SCOTUS decision few years down the road. NFA intact
Final Rule upheld, appeals, SCOTUS docket, few years down, ATF big public raids that makes Waco look inconsequential.
Final Rule overturned at SCOTUS level, NFA basically intact; Caetano opinion not applied by Thomas
Final Rule upheld at SCOTUS level, Thomas dissents
Final Rule overturned at SCOTUS level, SBR portion of NFA overturned/nullified; DOJ ordered to destroy records for registered SBRs including pistol braces; big win for 2A
Final Rule upheld unanimously at SCOTUS level , no dissent; DOJ and D Congress emboldened to do further Executive runaround, big Loss for 2A
I'm just saying after whichever happens in the District Courts; SCOTUS may still not nullify the SBR portion of the NFA, even if the Final rule is overturned.I think scotus will overturn the rule eventually and any sbrs that have already been approved will remain approved.
I think the ATF have always said that long before the pistol brace thing... same for cane tips.