Failed cartridges...

DeanMk · Jun 14, 2018

Glock Jock said:
Thats what my dad says. He literally told me if I ever buy a 9mm I can't bring it in his house. Lol. That being said I'm strongly considering buying a CZ P09 in 9mm.

Wait til you walk in one day in your Nazi officer's uniform. Sieg Heil!

Glock Jock · Jun 14, 2018

Boboclown said:
9mm failed cause .45 ACP won two wars.

But would the outcome of said wars have been different if they had switched side arms? It's a riflemans war more than a pistol. How much credit can we really give to the sidearm?

Boboclown · Jun 14, 2018

Glock Jock said:
But would the outcome of said wars have been different if they had switched side arms? It's a riflemans war more than a pistol. How much credit can we really give to the sidearm?

The sidearm means a lot. Truthfully, not many took advantage of the capability of the rifles they had... I don't think most of them are what we'd call riflemen now.

There certainly were remarkable men, who were good shots. But not a majority.

Artillery did more than sidearms and rifles.

Pandaz3 · Jun 29, 2018

I like 40 and have guns I can carry in that caliber. I like 10 MM, but don't have a gun in that caliber that I like to carry, yes I own a G-29, but I do not like carrying it. I love 357 Sig but only own two guns for it. I have three 45's that I can and will carry, but only the XD45 3.3 has a extended double stack spare magazine. I have 9MM's but they don' give me that warm fuzzy feeling. I like carrying my XD40 3.0" as the best compromise for me..

CountryGent · Jul 1, 2018

The .25 NAA and .32 NAA comes to mind. They were .32 ACP and .380 ACP necked down to .25 and .32, respectively. I remember thinking they were both neat-o when they came out, but it does not appear to have taken off. NAA still lists firearms so chambered on their site though.

A book I am currently reminded me of another one that is likely kind of a niche cartridge — .480 Ruger. It was basically a shorter.475 Linebaugh. According to the book, Ruger discontinued revolvers in said. I did a cartridge search on Ruger's site and it did not turn up any wheelguns. It does list a No. 1 chambered in .480 Ruger / .475 Linebaugh though:

Captain O · Jul 1, 2018

CountryGent said:
The .25 NAA and .32 NAA comes to mind. They were .32 ACP and .380 ACP necked down to .25 and .32, respectively. I remember thinking they were both neat-o when they came out, but it does not appear to have taken off. NAA still lists firearms so chambered on their site though.

A book I am currently reminded me of another one that is likely kind of a niche cartridge — .480 Ruger. It was basically a shorter.475 Linebaugh. According to the book, Ruger discontinued revolvers in said. I did a cartridge search on Ruger's site and it did not turn up any wheelguns. It does list a No. 1 chambered in .480 Ruger / .475 Linebaugh though:

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The .32 NAA is a great cartridge. It makes the small bore cartridge "get up and do a tap dance". Loaded with a Lehigh solid-copper bullet, it would be outstanding! (Pooh-pooh it all you like, but such a combination would be quite effective).

Heyjoe · Jul 1, 2018

DirectDrive said:
.45 GAP

I would've greatly appreciated your advice yesterday...

What a worthless waste of time and money. I can hear red foreman in my mind, ya dumb@ss!

DirectDrive · Jul 1, 2018

Heyjoe said:
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What a worthless waste of time and money. I can hear red foreman in my mind, ya dumb@ss!

Their only saving grace is that they can be converted to 40 S&W.

Captain O · Jul 1, 2018

Yep, the GAP fell flat on it's face. (No surprise there).

Heyjoe · Jul 1, 2018

DirectDrive said:
Their only saving grace is that they can be converted to 40 S&W.

So i hear, though, after a short search, found no such conversion parts. If you know of one a link would be most aggreable.

So now i have a cheap glock or an expensive paperweight. Not a single shop in town carries cartridges. Smh, i know better.

DirectDrive · Jul 1, 2018

Heyjoe said:
So i hear, though, after a short search, found no such conversion parts. If you know of one a link would be most aggreable.

So now i have a cheap glock or an expensive paperweight. Not a single shop in town carries cartridges. Smh, i know better.

Up above you ^^^

BillGabby1 · Jul 17, 2018

How about 22 Winchester Rimfire? Still see a few boxes on some gun shop shelves, but primarily made obsolete by the 22LR,
it morphed into the 22 WRM.
Many of the old Winchester Pumps were made to fire it.
Gabby

RicInOR · Dec 5, 2018

300 PRC ?

P7id10T said:
Ones I suspect will go by the wayside:
375 Ruger / 338 RCM / 300 RCM / 22 Nosler / 26 & 28 Nosler / not sure about the 6.5 PRC
Not sure which will fade to oblivion first: 6.8 SPC or 6.5 Grendel
Always wanted to find a 6.5 Carcano, but never could.
I don't expect the 6.5 Creedmoor will keep up its momentum.
Surprised the 7 RUM has stayed alive as long as it has, the barrel cooking round that it is.
404 Jeffries : the parent to many excellent cartridges.

Barrett to Produce MRAD Rifles in .300 PRC for DoD

CountryGent · Dec 5, 2018

One that has been mentioned yet is 12 and 13mm Gyrojet. What a weird gizmo and unsurprisingly it never went anywhere.

Boboclown · Dec 5, 2018

CountryGent said:
One that has been mentioned yet is 12 and 13mm Gyrojet. What a weird gizmo and unsurprisingly it never went anywhere.

Their problem was early manufacturing issues added to making pistols and carbines where close range is the name of the game which did not benefit from this type of ammo as it really lack any close range ballistic performance. Distance would have been where it'd be a neat concept.

Its a shame it never caught on. I'd like to shoot one.

Ura-Ki · Dec 5, 2018

Funny as I have been enjoying one of my failed cartridges lately, the once famous .500 Jeffries! While it is still produced in very small batches, and one can still find it, for around $15 per round!

Hand loaded comes in around $3 per round! That's the only way I can afford it!

Captain O · Dec 5, 2018

Ura-Ki said:
Funny as I have been enjoying one of my failed cartridges lately, the once famous .500 Jeffries! While it is still produced in very small batches, and one can still find it, for around $15 per round!
Hand loaded comes in around $3 per round! That's the only way I can afford it!

That .500 Jeffries is a cartridge that would serve well in the alders of Alaska. If it stomps a Grizzly into a puddle, so much the better. There are times when "bigger is better".