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Erich Pratt Schools CNN anchor

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by OutlawHoss, Jun 24, 2016.

  1. OutlawHoss

    OutlawHoss Klamath-Siskyou Well-Known Member

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    Erich Pratt hits a home run with this interview. Amongst all the b.s. rhetoric that makes one smack their face, (and my face hurts now!) this interview is a refreshing positive break.

    Incidentally, I have seen the CDC report Mr. Pratt references, and it indeed was 'comissioned' as a part of the 23 executive orders decreed by his lordship Obama. Yet the report never got national coverage as it didn't return the results the anti-gunners wanted. I emailed links to that report far and wide myself (not that I have national influence) but it was definitely buried. Another note of hypocrisy, anti-gunners croak about the moratorium on 'gun violence' studies, yet here was a timely one, done in the wake of Newtown, and nothing said about it. So, who still denies there is an ideological agenda being pushed, one that ignores the very answers that people should be hearing?
     
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  2. DSAPT9

    DSAPT9 North Idaho Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    The problem is that facts do not matter and never have to these folks they have an agenda and that is all that matters.
     
  3. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Since the leftist continue with their mantra, I will continue with mine; they are delusional.

    Delusion is the most extreme deviation in thought content. The fixed false beliefs maintained despite all objective evidence and logical argument to the contrary. Furthermore the belief is not one ordinarily shared by others who have similar educational or social cultural background.

    Cut and paste that, and post it everywhere these people spout the delusional commentary.
     
  4. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    WOPR: "A strange game. The only winning move is not to watch the news."
     
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  5. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    Smackdown!
     
  6. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    I'm surprised her head didn't explode.
    I'm guessing they won't have that guy back on the program talking all his truths and violating their practices of misinformation
     
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  7. OutlawHoss

    OutlawHoss Klamath-Siskyou Well-Known Member

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    What is WOPR, if I might ask?
     
  8. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    WOPR is the computer from War Games, an 1980's move about a computer that simulates different strategies for global thermonuclear war. In the end (spoiler) the computer learns that there is no winning move in nuclear war.

    The quote is "a strang game, the only winning move is not to play"
    I feel that every time we discuss some idiot journalist, it seems so useless since nothing changes
     
  9. OutlawHoss

    OutlawHoss Klamath-Siskyou Well-Known Member

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    Okay, I saw that movie when it came out, but not since then. I agree with the sentiment!
     
  10. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Still an awesome movie all these years later.
     
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    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    He did a fantastic job keeping the actual facts in front of her, while simultaneously not getting roped in to the tireless argument that "too many people are dying due to gun violence" - that usually stops people from getting at the heart of the matter. Many props to him for not only going head to head with her, but very effectively disarming her, while also pissing her off! :s0115:
     
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  12. NWGlockgal

    NWGlockgal Oregon Well-Known Member

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    She's not exactly objective, is she?
     
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  13. OutlawHoss

    OutlawHoss Klamath-Siskyou Well-Known Member

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    She seemed to be making an emotional appeal, which is a ruse and manipulative journalism. Since all the irrationality is based on sustaining the emotion of the event to justify what is an intellectually dishonest, spurious argument, it just makes the media look,yet again, like fools. Erich remained calm and stuck to his facts and didn't validate her emotionalism but was polite none the less.
     
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  14. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, but it's kinda like shootin' fish in a barrel.


    Only easier.
     
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  15. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    I guess I win then:cool:
     
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  16. Jerry

    Jerry Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    No such thing as "gun violence". We need to take control of the dialogue. Not only that,we need to get the 20 million plus gun owners in the streets shouting at the top of our lungs for OUR CIVIL RIGHTS. Civil rights are CONSTITUTIONAL rights! Some of us remember the riots of the 1960's. It's about time we do the same thing! Civil disobedience is not a crime, it's our right!!
     
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  17. Osarion

    Osarion Snohomish County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone have this CDC research study that the guy is quoting from? Why is this not being forwarded like it's hot?

    I'm also really curious about the stats he quotes from France. Where can we find these? If these are all true, how is this not like the major crux of every gun control argument?

    I will try to contact this CNN reporter and ask her what her follow up research she "promised" has turned up.
     
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    Nick Burkhardt NE Oregon Well-Known Member

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    He did a great job defusing her loaded questions. "31,000 deaths a year, isn't that too many? Yes or No?"
     
  19. Schultzey

    Schultzey United States New Member

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    The full report titled, “Priorities for a Public Health Research Agenda to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence”, can be viewed at http://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/1.

    Additional info is available at Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence : Health and Medicine Division (http://www.nationalacademies.org/hmd/Reports/2013/Priorities-for-Research-to-Reduce-the-Threat-of-Firearm-Related-Violence.aspx).
     
  20. OutlawHoss

    OutlawHoss Klamath-Siskyou Well-Known Member

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    It came out some months after Newtown, and I've read it. A diligent internet search should turn it up. In fact, here it is:
    http://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/1#x
    And all kind of results from when it was published:
    cdc gun violence report 2013 at DuckDuckGo (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=cdc+gun+violence+report+2013&ia=web)
    I think it would be great if she was bombarded with emails showing her the study, and challenging her to follow up on it on the air.
     
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