Does the hole matter?!?

[Illuminaughty]

So…I see all these post or people losing their minds about the "Hillary Hole" on wheel guns, interrogating the OP, making it a deciding factor on purchases, and more….what gives?!? The tool firing the deadly lead seems to functions the same and has no reliability impact… I guess my question is.. does the Hillary hole matter? Am I missing something? Or is it simply folks being cork sniffers? Or hung up on principle?

Thanks for any info…

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[Unka-Boo]

Thread title deceiving, minus 5 internet points.

 

[kmk1012]

So…I see all these post or people losing their minds about the "Hillary Hole" on wheel guns, interrogating the OP, making it a deciding factor on purchases, and more….what gives?!? The tool firing the deadly lead seems to functions the same and has no reliability impact… I guess my question is.. does the Hillary hole matter? Am I missing something? Or is it simply folks being cork sniffers? Or hung up on principle?

Thanks for any info…

Generally oldsters are the ones complaining. I prefer pre lock versions but most of mine are post lock. I'm almost an oldster too. There's a kit out there to remove the lock and plug that nasty hole with a color matching plug if that's important to someone. Taurus has had issues with their locks seizing but I've never heard of a S&W having that issue.

 

[2Wheels4Ever]

I've owned and shot both. I'd prefer without, but I'm not fingering the hole when shooting, so I deal with it like other holes during certain activities...... Giggity.

 

[NeoBlackdog]

The very thought of Hillary's hole is enough to wilt one's barrel...

 

[Nosferatu]

To me, it matters, but it hasn't prevented me from purchasing a S&W revolver that has one, specifically models that were introduced post-hole and don't have another option, such as the X-Frame.

This is probably the best article I've seen on the subject:

The History and Future of the Smith & Wesson Internal Lock – RevolverGuy.Com

revolverguy.com

 

[Nosferatu]

The very thought of Hillary's hole is enough to wilt one's barrel...

Which is why Bill went poking around in others.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

I didn't know what hole he was talking about.

 

[Hueco]

I've owned and shot both. I'd prefer without, but I'm not fingering the hole when shooting, so I deal with it like other holes during certain activities...... Giggity.

You unlock it when you get it then never touch it again?

 

[2Wheels4Ever]

You unlock it when you get it then never touch it again?

You know they come unlocked, so most of you look but don't touch.

 

[GrayGoose]

Hillary hole?

 

[Longwalkhome]

I am one of the old guys and my opinion is that if you have eaten real butter all your life then margarine just won't do.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

It matters to me....I think that it is a useless addition.

In any event...buy a Smith and Wesson with one or not as you wish...you are the one that has to live with your choices.
It don't matter what other people think.
Andy

 

[Knobgoblin]

Biggest favor ever perpetrated on behalf of geriatric revolver owners.

Now you can have endshake, timing issues, significant finish problems, stripped screw heads, firewood quality grips..... but it's "pre lock" . So it's worth the highest asking price you see on gunbroker.

 

[solv3nt]

There's rumors that it could lock itself under recoil. I'm not sure that's ever been proven.

 

[RVTECH]

It's more the principle and not the hole itself.

Basically because S & W caved to pressure and created the mechanism.

Not unlike crossbolts on a Marlin or Winchester.

 

[solv3nt]

It's more the principle and not the hole itself.

Basically because S & W caved to pressure and created the mechanism.

Not unlike crossbolts on a Marlin or Winchester.

Smith and Wesson added another hole, so just like a donkey hole, I don't need another one

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Biggest favor ever perpetrated on behalf of geriatric revolver owners.

Now you can have endshake, timing issues, significant finish problems, stripped screw heads, firewood quality grips..... but it's "pre lock" . So it's worth the highest asking price you see on gunbroker.

Wow that's amazing, it could be one of those ultra rare ones: pre-lock, pre-ban, pre-Obama care, pre-Covid, and from a smoke free home!

 

[Illuminaughty]

It matters to me....I think that it is a useless addition.

In any event...buy a Smith and Wesson with one or not as you wish...you are the one that has to live with your choices.
It don't matter what other people think.
Andy

Agree on the buying whatever I want regardless of what people thing (I own a flintlock!, and that its a useless addition)… But was curious if there was a functional reason for declining a wheelgun for such.

Thanks for the feedback sir!

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Agree on the buying whatever I want regardless of what people thing (I own a flintlock!, and that its a useless addition)… But was curious if there was a functional reason for declining a wheelgun for such.

Thanks for the feedback sir!

Flintlock a useless addition...Um...No.
The dumbazz Hillary Hole...yes...it is useless...since all you need for safety...is to keep your fingerr off the trigger and keep your muzzle pointed in a safe direction.

In any event...
It don't matter what I say..since it really is only important to me.

Buy what you want....use what you want...enjoy what you like.
Andy