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Last Dec 3rd, I went to pickup a Kimber that I had ordered on Gun Broker. I used a local FFL that I knew well.
I have always been delayed and even denied a UPIN # when I applied in 2011.
So when I filled in the 4473 for the FFL , I joked "see you in 3 days"...He stopped me leaving saying I had been DENIED.....(This was the day after San Bernidino shootings).
Then I found out the NICS had ceased doing Denial investigations. Naturally I sent in my fingerprints and requested the reason for denial, and got a letter back 3 weeks later listing almost everything that you mark NO on the 4473. (Not much help)
I knew from 2011 the reason for denial was 2 arrests decades before that showed no disposition. When back in 2011 I checked about having attorneys clear them is was several thousand $$, so I was content to just accept the wait.
I currently hold CCW in WA, OR, NV and UT, and they did not have a problem with my background.
I wrote letters to AZ and CA asking them for my criminal background, they both came back negative. I them appealed there findings, and included the FBI printout showing the arrest.
I took about 4 months of patience before they responded (they were also very nice when I called them and asked about progress). Finally I got letters back showing they had a disposition showing all charges had been dismissed, and the FBI notified. CA even showed I had a CWP???? (That was 30 years ago).
BUT NICS was still not even considering a years back log of Denial appeals.
Next step was to contact my Congressman Dave Riechter. (He was an old LEO, and pro 2nd Amendment), explained the history what I had done, and all I wanted was for NICS to re-run my background now that new data was entered.
4 weeks letter I got a letter from NICS to proceed with purchase.
At the same time I ask my Congressman to help, I again applied for a UPIN #
2 weeks after I got my Proceed letter, I received a UPIN #.
Long post, but I wanted to document how "our" government can really screw thins up, but not accept them as the final word. Find a way to win, as I did . NICS will not respond to a citizen, but will to request for Congressmen.
I have always been delayed and even denied a UPIN # when I applied in 2011.
So when I filled in the 4473 for the FFL , I joked "see you in 3 days"...He stopped me leaving saying I had been DENIED.....(This was the day after San Bernidino shootings).
Then I found out the NICS had ceased doing Denial investigations. Naturally I sent in my fingerprints and requested the reason for denial, and got a letter back 3 weeks later listing almost everything that you mark NO on the 4473. (Not much help)
I knew from 2011 the reason for denial was 2 arrests decades before that showed no disposition. When back in 2011 I checked about having attorneys clear them is was several thousand $$, so I was content to just accept the wait.
I currently hold CCW in WA, OR, NV and UT, and they did not have a problem with my background.
I wrote letters to AZ and CA asking them for my criminal background, they both came back negative. I them appealed there findings, and included the FBI printout showing the arrest.
I took about 4 months of patience before they responded (they were also very nice when I called them and asked about progress). Finally I got letters back showing they had a disposition showing all charges had been dismissed, and the FBI notified. CA even showed I had a CWP???? (That was 30 years ago).
BUT NICS was still not even considering a years back log of Denial appeals.
Next step was to contact my Congressman Dave Riechter. (He was an old LEO, and pro 2nd Amendment), explained the history what I had done, and all I wanted was for NICS to re-run my background now that new data was entered.
4 weeks letter I got a letter from NICS to proceed with purchase.
At the same time I ask my Congressman to help, I again applied for a UPIN #
2 weeks after I got my Proceed letter, I received a UPIN #.
Long post, but I wanted to document how "our" government can really screw thins up, but not accept them as the final word. Find a way to win, as I did . NICS will not respond to a citizen, but will to request for Congressmen.