National Dayton killer WAS on drugs says coroner

[41mag]

Coroner's report: Dayton shooter latest mass killer taking anti-depressants, illegal drugs during rampage - The National Sentinel

By Jon Dougherty

thenationalsentinel.com

Who here didn't expect to see this?

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[TTSX]

Shocker. I'm truly, truly surprised

 

[teflon6string]

Of course we all know how well it works to ban illegal drug abuse...

 

[RVTECH]

Personally I am surprised we have never heard mandatory drug testing suggested as part of a gun purchase.

 

[wired]

He got juiced up to go out on the road. No surprise. FWIW the report I heard had him on Xanax , a benzodiazapine , not SSRI's and that may have been a recreational thing. SSRI's are not typically recreational. Alcohol , cocaine and xanax are what you want to take on when you really,really,really dont want to care about what your'e doing.

 

[teflon6string]

Personally I am surprised we have never heard mandatory drug testing suggested as part of a gun purchase.

...ssssshhhhhhh...!

 

[aljames]

Geee, lets see....."big pharma" VS the "gun lobby". I wonder which one buys off the politicians to a larger degree? Oh never mind its pretty easy to see based on all the corrupt politicians focus at the current moment and after every mass shooting committed previously. Interestingly enough if you follow the money its easy to see why they ignore a lot of things in our society. I don't care what people do to their own bodies but cigarettes kill 400,000 annually. I don't hear anyone demanding we end that carnage. 1100 people a day. #NoBigDeal. I mean come on....Alcohol, Fast cars, Etc. The same arguments made against guns could be used against it all.

"you don't need anti depressants..... you need to suck it up buttercup"
"you don't need cigarettes"
"there's no reason you should be able to walk in and buy a 1.75 liter jug of whiskey"
"no normal drivers need a car/motorcycle that can go 150 MPH when the speed limit is 65"

I find it interesting the lame brain antigun groups don't or can't apply the same logic to other things in our society. Thankfully....Otherwise I couldn't enjoy a smoke while driving 125mph down to the local bar with my assault rifle in the trunk. Just saying

ETA: Sorry if I offended anyone here with my colorful language. Now I remember why I usually just read around here and try to keep my mouth shut. "A wise man opens his ears and shuts his mouth" I'll try and keep it a little more neutral

 

[ma96782]

From the article.....

The use of SSRI antidepressant drugs by many mass shooters over the past decade is seen by some as a potential indicator for violence. But thus far, lawmakers have yet to focus in on this potential key aspect, choosing instead to opt for more gun control.

Aloha, Mark

 

[KKG]

He's NOT the first one but reports like this don't usually show up this soon!

 

[Stomper]

This is why one should only get high, or mellow out.... on life.

 

[Flymph]

Maybe he should have been given a joint instead pf those pills...
"I was going to commit mass murder... but then I got high."

 

[arakboss]

I suspect a lot of the murderers in recent decades have been on mood meds.

 

[titsonritz]

Well, that's a first...

 

[arakboss]

Well, that's a first...

It doesn't usually get much if any press (whether they were on mood meds or not).

 

[Lars]

How should we handle veterans on meds?

 

[arakboss]

How should we handle veterans on meds?

How should we handle any person on meds, Veteran's certainly haven't been immune to committing mass or attempted mass murders. There are certainly millions of citizens on mood meds that own firearms but haven't gone out and participated in mass shootings.

 

[BillM]

I suspect a lot of the murderers in recent decades have been on mood meds.

And you would be correct-----

39 School shooters and other school-related violence committed by those under the influence of psychiatric drugs – CCHR International

39 school related acts of violence—school shooters and stabbings committed by individuals under the influence of psychiatric drugs that can cause violence

www.cchrint.org

Psychiatric Drugs & Violence—The Facts – CCHR International

international warnings and studies on psychiatric drugs violence, mania, hostility, aggression, homicide, psychosis, suicide - school shooters and drugs

www.cchrint.org

 

[Member 5605]

We know darn well from this thread: https://www.northwestfirearms.com/threads/ssri.255205/unread
Of the dangers. Some have experienced first hand.

 

[41mag]

here are certainly millions of citizens on mood meds that own firearms but haven't gone out and participated in mass shootings.

some confusion remains whether the 'potential' felon can be better managed than the 'actual' felon;

 

[Andy54Hawken]

How should we handle veterans on meds?

This is a good question...
If asked honestly and out of concern for all who take mood meds along with the potential side effects of said mood meds.

But...

When taken out of context...
Used to further an agenda...
Words twisted or spun to read a certain way...

Does the folks who need help a disservice at best....and keeps the real underling issues of :
Abuse , either by the person taking the medication or over prescription by some doctors...
And the stigma of seeking help in first place , which may prevent folks from getting help ....at worst.

Please note that I am not accusing anyone here of trolling or using the question , I quoted to start a problem...
I am just posting my concerns over how , some folks ask or would use that question.
Andy