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Cops To Attorney: If We Hafta Get A Warrant...

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by billdeserthills, Dec 5, 2013.

  1. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills Cave Creek, Arizony Well-Known Member

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  2. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    This is the mentality that is beginning to be dominate in LE today and it is disgusting to say the least.
    Every day they become more like Nazi SS or Soviet secret police in manner and means to do harm to citizens.
    This story is over the top and should not be allowed to be put to rest.
    I have respect for good LE, but I despise LE that are like this.
     
  3. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Getting harder and harder to think of the profession of police officer as honorable.
     
  4. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner You'll Never Know Well-Known Member

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    LEO should be on administrative leave pending an IA investigation!!
     
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  5. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    More like administered level 1 lobotomy.
     
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  6. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner You'll Never Know Well-Known Member

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    Apparently, that has already been done! :)
     
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  7. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills Cave Creek, Arizony Well-Known Member

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    Giving law-breaking police paid time off sounds like a stern warning
     
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  8. GOG

    GOG State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    I think the change in LEO's behavior began in the sixties when there were riots and demonstrations on a regular basis. At that time LE agencies had to gear up in "tactical" type gear and that was pretty much uncharted territory. Over time, the creation of SWAT units further reinforced the "tactical mindset". With the event of 9/11, all rules were off and the mindset of us versus them, (already part of the LE philosophy) became further ingrained.

    "Peace Officers" became "Law Enforcement Officers somewhere in there; probably in the sixties. The consequences of that philosophical and organizational change has given us what exists today. Over time, the duties of law enforcement have become more and more intrusive and out of control. The "War on Drugs" gave law enforcement an incredible amount of Constitution trampling power and the TPTB wouldn't have it any other way. The Attorney General, the Nation's top LEO is brazenly corrupt and our so called "leaders" are mostly criminals themselves, consequently the behavior of the police is to be expected.

    Ruby Ridge, Waco and other "incidents" have shown that the police and alphabet agencies have zero accountability, so the behavior not only continues, it worsens exponentially.

    I don't know how to make it change, but sooner or later something really bad is going to happen. After that, it's anybody's guess.
     
  9. mancat

    mancat Kitsap County Well-Known Member

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    What's going to happen at some point is the police are going to screw with the wrong person, and there's going to be a stack of dead cops at someone's door. After that, the push for gun control - up to forceful confiscation of all "assault weapons" - is going to make the post-Sandy Hook outrage look like a garbage-fueled rant from Oscar on Sesame Street.
     
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  10. RicInOR

    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I believe a large portion of this behaviour comes from the constant "War on ...." we see to have.
    War on Poverty
    War on Drugs
    War on Prostitution
    War on ....

    In war, soldiers shoot first. In peace, officers question, investigate and only use force if there is no other choice.
     
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  11. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Or followed home after making those sort of threats. Intimidation can run both ways and most bullies don't expect they will be getting some in return. Not suggesting anything of course, just that it amazes me that people like the LEO in question don't appear to consider such things.
     
  12. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    If I was that attorney I'd sue the pants of those officers. Trespassing, threatening private property, unlawful discharge of a firearm in the city limits, cruelty to animals..... Hit them without 15 or twenty possible charges and see how many you can make stick. Hell, public littering of not policing any brass, etc. twist the law the way good attorneys know how.
    I know they didn't come back and shoot the dogs but I look at filing any possible suit as if they did, would.
    Brutus Out
     
  13. Grunwald

    Grunwald Out of that nut job colony of Seattle, WA Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately what you have listed belong under the criminal justice system A private lawyer only has the civil system available as a weapon.
     
  14. evltwn

    evltwn Gold Hill Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The only thing more dispicable than a rogue cop is ANY attorney. Until the event is recorded, I
    Would hesitate to take on faith the word of a lawyer. May I remind you all that Obama is a law professor.
     
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    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    mancat Kitsap County Well-Known Member

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    Maybe in TV and movies. Some of my best friends are lawyers and I would trust them with anything.
     
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    ZigZagZeke Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    He should go to the DA and prefer charges, and he should sue the officer(s) in civil court:

     
  18. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    I hope he is smart enough to install several hidden cameras and recorders to catch the sob that made the threats against him.
    With wireless the recorders dont even need to be on his property. They can go through a router and wireless modem and be recorded 20 or 50 miles away, or anywhere an internet connection can be had.
    That way it cannot be found and destroyed. Not expensive to do either.
     
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