California Passes 11% excise tax on guns and ammunition

[Certaindeaf]

If that happens in any significant quantity, they'll just tax that too. Like here in Oregon, if your car uses less (or no) gasoline and you thus avoid/minimize your gas taxes, they'll just charge you more for vehicle registration based on their estimate of the revenue they're allegedly missing out on.

Instead of cutting one useless administrative position Portland will just stop fixing the roads..

PBOT paints bleak picture as council considers budget crisis fix

Let the budget negotiations begin!

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[gmerkt]

If it's anything like the high speed rail they passed in CA, it will be completely ineffective and the funds usage will be a corruption feast.

"If Gov. Gavin Newsom signs the bill" Potentially our next US president if the Dems are able to coax Biden not to re-up.

"California would impose an 11% excise tax on all guns and ammunition sales. The proceeds would be spent on gun violence prevention and school safety programs." Until they aren't, which would be a very short time before the money vanishes into the General Fund for diversion to other uses. Like the hundreds of millions of dollars of Washington state's carbon credit sales money.

 

[gmerkt]

There is always the "reloading loophole." I'll bet RCBS, Lee, etc. have already been indirect beneficiaries of Calif. ammo background checks (and fees related thereto). After all remaining shooters left in Calif. start rolling their own, Gavin will wonder where all that ammo tax revenue went.

 

[Covey06]

There is always the "reloading loophole." I'll bet RCBS, Lee, etc. have already been indirect beneficiaries of Calif. ammo background checks (and fees related thereto). After all remaining shooters left in Calif. start rolling their own, Gavin will wonder where all that ammo tax revenue went.

True, but then he will just start taxing the components and or make it illegal to ship those components into CA.

 

[gmerkt]

True, but then he will just start taxing the components and or make it illegal to ship those components into CA.

These are possibilities. BUT: A lot of numbskulls in politics don't know much about anything remotely technical. Mostly a buncha lawyers whose main talent is arguing nitpicky points of law. Maybe in some other states where there are some non-lawyers in statehouses there might be knowledge. Probably not much in Calif.

Choking off just one component would spoil the broth. I've thought for years that buying gunpowder is just too easy. And getting up to 48 pounds (or whatever) ordered online and delivered to your front door without government interference is a miracle. Yes, there is regulation, but it's in the carriage, not the security aspect of it. I don't know of any federal laws preventing prohibited persons from buying smokeless gunpowder. Are there any?

Bullets and brass would be pretty tough to regulate. The obvious choke points are primers and powder. And those seem to be self-limiting to some extent already.

 

[American123]

These are possibilities. BUT: A lot of numbskulls in politics don't know much about anything remotely technical. Mostly a buncha lawyers whose main talent is arguing nitpicky points of law. Maybe in some other states where there are some non-lawyers in statehouses there might be knowledge. Probably not much in Calif.

Choking off just one component would spoil the broth. I've thought for years that buying gunpowder is just too easy. And getting up to 48 pounds (or whatever) ordered online and delivered to your front door without government interference is a miracle. Yes, there is regulation, but it's in the carriage, not the security aspect of it. I don't know of any federal laws preventing prohibited persons from buying smokeless gunpowder. Are there any?

Bullets and brass would be pretty tough to regulate. The obvious choke points are primers and powder. And those seem to be self-limiting to some extent already.

This assumes too much. As moronic as these people may be. They have the internet. They can just have one of their lemmings spend an hour on the internet to easily figure out "hey, people can make their own ammo, we need to stop that too!"

 

[Longwalkhome]

Anyone ever heard of the Pittman tax? It's a 11% excise tax on guns and ammo started in 1937 . Money was supposed to go to...

he Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration Act of 1937, most often referred to as the Pittman–Robertson Act for its sponsors, Nevada Senator Key Pittman and Virginia Congressman Absalom Willis Robertson, is an act that imposes an 11% tax on firearms, ammunition, and archery equipment and distributes the proceeds to state governments for wildlife projects.[

Add 11% for fed tax plus 11% for kali tax and 8% for sales tax and kalifornians are paying 30% tax to buy a gun

 

[gmerkt]

This assumes too much. As moronic as these people may be. They have the internet. They can just have one of their lemmings spend an hour on the internet to easily figure out "hey, people can make their own ammo, we need to stop that too!"

Yeah, you're probably right. All they have to do is come to someplace like NWFA and get everything they need.

 

[American123]

Yeah, you're probably right. All they have to do is come to someplace like NWFA and get everything they need.

They already do that. Remember "Turbo dick head"

 

[Explorer1]

Ask Seattle how much money their ammo sales tax netted them. Don't think the gross income will pay the program's overhead today. But they did drive more business out of the area!

 

[jackrv]

Portland fixes roads? Who knew?