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Are Rifles Used a Lot in Homicides?

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by pdxjimbo, Jun 17, 2016.

  1. pdxjimbo

    pdxjimbo Portland New Member

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  2. Joe13

    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Someone will find a way to poke holes in all of the facts and turn it back on us most likely.

    Very good article to help put things into perspective - how that is perceived is up for subjection.

    I can already hear the anti-gun people heads exploding when they read that article and discover there are assumably more then 10 times the number of AR's in the country then their precious Priuses. (Known in my family as a Prius of shight)
     
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  3. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Sub Light Speed Well-Known Member

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    We all know that long guns are not very good at committing crimes, and especially crimes of opportunity which is what most are! Even hand guns are used way less then the anti;s want us all to think!
     
  4. Joe13

    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    For sure!


    I would never want or wish death or pain on others BUT I would be very interested in how this story would go if the guy went in with 2 machetes... Any idiot could kill or maim 2-3 times the numbers in Orlando if they just went into the dance floor like it was a briar patch.

    Would they then push to ban garden tools? I'm guessing not and it would turn back into a terrorist attack issue; against the LGBT community (not US citizens...).
     
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  5. Boboclown

    Boboclown North Carolina Well-Known Member

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    Its never been about facts. Its an argument of logic vs. feelings. Facts only matter to logic side, but not feelings. They'll just say a ban on assault weapons would lead to less mass shootings, when all it would do is make handguns more prevelant in mass shootings if it even stopped criminals from getting rifles like the AR (and it won't). Different when talking about the government. Then it becomes people wanting to be free vs. the government wanting more power.
     
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  6. BlackRyder

    BlackRyder Edmonds Well-Known Member

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    Statistics show that every rifle in America has been used in at least 2 homicides.
     
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  7. Boboclown

    Boboclown North Carolina Well-Known Member

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    And 96% of statistics show that 99% of statistics are made up. ;)
     
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  8. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    Try about 40 times more likely to be killed by a drunk driver than murdered by a rifle...

    Number of annual homicides by all rifles combined (not just the scary looking ones). Each * represents about 300 victims:
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    Number of annual homicides by drunk drivers, also about 300 victims per *.
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    By liberal logic shouldn't we be banning cars since it's impossible to prevent drunks from purchasing or stealing then using one?

    Also why aren't more worried about homicides by drunk drivers since there are 40 effing times as many killed than by rifles? Are their lives not worth as much because a scary looking rifle was used?

    Or maybe just because it's all about capitalizing on a tragic event to advance their politics instead of looking for a REAL solution?????? Effing scumbags one and all (and I'm using restraint here...).
     
  9. IheartSig

    IheartSig Beaverton Diamond Supporter Diamond Supporter Platinum Supporter

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    4% (some years 3%) of crimes are committed using long-rifles (Source: FBI crime statistics)

    In 2013, ~200 out of 8,400 gun-murders were committed using rifles.

    More people were murdered by "clubs" in 2013.
     
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  10. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Stop it JUST STOP IT. I've had about enough of this logic and rational thought. If you can't just go along with the crowd you are obviously a gun toting primitive bigoted woman hater who has no right to even voice an opinion.

    or something like that
     
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  11. dude23

    dude23 PDX Active Member

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    Yes, the baby that was sacrificed during the manufacture of each rifle & again by the owner to bless it after it was purchased. This is the real reason the religious right wants to ban abortion, because Planned Parenthood is taking all the potential sacrificial babies.
     
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    dude23 PDX Active Member

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    And you should be MURDEREDDDD IN THE STREEETTSSS!! Because peace & harmony.
     
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    dude23 PDX Active Member

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    But cars weren't invented as MURDDDERRR weapons.
     
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    dude23 PDX Active Member

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    And cars actually have a legitimate purpose[/sarc].
     
  15. AndyinEverson

    AndyinEverson Everson, Wa. Well-Known Member

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    In a different thread I wondered just many AR15's owners were out there Vs. the criminals who used AR's in their crimes.
    Which led to my thinking of just how many guns and gun owners are out there Vs. criminals who used guns.
    I just looked at the thread "Shooting Pictures" as of right now there are 49 pages of folks shooting their guns and not one illegal act. Guess I kinda got my answer.

    To the OP thanks for posting the link ... Nice to have some real numbers to back up what you are trying to say.
    Andy
     
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    I can't find a video of the speech, but even Obama had to admit that rifles aren't used in crime nearly nearly as much as handguns. He made the admission while talking about the crime rates in Chicago- if I can find a link to the clip I'll post it- or if anyone else can, please do!
     
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  17. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    2010 census population 308,745,538

    population under 18 74,181,467

    population of felons 5,850,000

    estimated number of people not allowed to own a firearm in the USA

    81,000,000 + I am not including the illegals as I do not know how many are in the population numbers nor even how many are here.

    308,745,538 - 81,000,000 = 227,745,538 estimated people allowed to own firearms in the USA

    current estimation of the number of firearms owners in the USA is 80 to 100 million

    if we take the low end that means more then 1/3 of the voting age adults in the USA own a firearm. And the high end a bit less then half.

    So these anti gun nuts are calling more then 1/3+ of the voting age population of the country "Names" and insinuating we are some kind of crazy.
     
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  18. ZigZagZeke

    ZigZagZeke Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    I was called a murderer the other day merely for explaining that there's no functional difference between a Ruger ranch rifle and a Bushmaster AR-15.o_O
     
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  19. bbbass

    bbbass La Grande Well-Known Member

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    I murdered some elk with my .308 rifle so far, a bunch of sage rats over the years with my .22, and a few yeller-bellied marmots the other day. Oh, the horror!!!!

    But my two ARs have murdered NOTHING AT ALL so far. Hmmmm.
     
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    ZigZagZeke I would have loved to be there for that little convo! I love it how ALL rifles are Assault rifles and we should ban them!
     
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