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DITTO !! had one,and it's about 12 lbs. depd. on mag used--then you add bipod,cuz you can't hold it up,and it gets worse--org. used 7.62x25 (9mm on sterioids) i think the newer ones are all 9 mm--much better to buy the hi-point 995 + a lot more fun !!!

steven
 

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